Hi everyone, it’s that time of year where your law school gets ranked and you can send harassing messages to your friends if their law school fell in the rankings. US News has published it’s annual “Best Graduate Schools” rankings. As I’ve said before, the US News rankings are essentially evil, encouraging big spending by law schools that has led to wildly inflated tuition. Despite that, they are also essentially accurate, giving a measure of a law school’s prestige that aligns fairly well with perception in the wider legal world.
US News 2015 Law School Rankings
Compared to 2014 Rankings
Law School |
2014 Ranking
|
Change
|
2015 Ranking
|
Yale University |
1
|
0
|
1
|
Harvard University |
2
|
0
|
2
|
Stanford University |
2
|
-1
|
3
|
Columbia University |
4
|
0
|
4
|
University of Chicago |
4
|
0
|
4
|
New York University |
6
|
0
|
6
|
University of Pennsylvania |
7
|
0
|
7
|
University of Virginia |
7
|
-1
|
8
|
University of California—Berkeley |
9
|
0
|
9
|
University of Michigan— Ann Arbor |
9
|
-1
|
10
|
Duke University |
11
|
+1
|
10
|
Northwestern University |
12
|
0
|
12
|
Cornell University |
13
|
0
|
13
|
Georgetown University |
14
|
+1
|
13
|
University of Texas— Austin |
15
|
0
|
15
|
University of California— Los Angeles |
17
|
+1
|
16
|
Vanderbilt University |
15
|
-1
|
16
|
Washington University at St. Louis |
19
|
+1
|
18
|
Emory University |
23
|
+4
|
19
|
George Washington University |
21
|
+1
|
20
|
University of Minnesota— Twin Cities |
19
|
-1
|
20
|
University of Southern California (Gould) |
18
|
-2
|
20
|
University of Alabama |
21
|
-2
|
23
|
College of William and Mary (Marshall- Wythe) |
33
|
+9
|
24
|
University of Washington |
28
|
+4
|
24
|
University of Notre Dame |
23
|
-3
|
26
|
Boston University |
29
|
+2
|
27
|
University of Iowa |
26
|
-1
|
27
|
Indiana University— Bloomington (Maurer) |
29
|
0
|
29
|
University of Georgia |
33
|
+4
|
29
|
Arizona State University (O’Connor) |
29
|
-2
|
31
|
Ohio State University (Moritz) |
36
|
+5
|
31
|
University of North Carolina— Chapel Hill |
31
|
0
|
31
|
University of Wisconsin— Madison |
33
|
+2
|
31
|
Wake Forest University |
36
|
+5
|
31
|
Boston College |
31
|
-5
|
36
|
Brigham Young University (Clark) |
44
|
+8
|
36
|
Fordham University |
38
|
+2
|
36
|
University of California— Davis |
38
|
+2
|
36
|
University of Arizona (Rogers) |
38
|
-2
|
40
|
University of Illinois— Urbana- Champaign |
47
|
+7
|
40
|
Southern Methodist University (Dedman) |
48
|
+6
|
42
|
University of Colorado— Boulder |
44
|
+1
|
43
|
Washington and Lee University |
26
|
-17
|
43
|
Florida State University |
48
|
+3
|
45
|
George Mason University |
41
|
-5
|
46
|
Tulane University |
48
|
+2
|
46
|
University of Maryland (Carey) |
41
|
-5
|
46
|
University of Florida (Levin) |
46
|
-3
|
49
|
University of Utah (Quinney) |
41
|
-8
|
49
|
Baylor University |
54
|
+3
|
51
|
Pennsylvania State University (Dickinson) |
64
|
+13
|
51
|
University of Richmond (Williams) |
53
|
+2
|
51
|
Pepperdine University |
61
|
+7
|
54
|
University of California (Hastings) |
48
|
-6
|
54
|
University of Connecticut |
58
|
+4
|
54
|
University of Nebraska— Lincoln |
61
|
+7
|
54
|
University of Houston |
48
|
-10
|
58
|
University of Kentucky |
58
|
0
|
58
|
University of Oklahoma |
68
|
+10
|
58
|
Temple University (Beasley) |
56
|
-5
|
61
|
University of Arkansas— Fayetteville |
68
|
+7
|
61
|
University of Miami |
76
|
+15
|
61
|
Case Western Reserve University |
68
|
+4
|
64
|
Georgia State University |
54
|
-10
|
64
|
University of Missouri |
76
|
+12
|
64
|
Yeshiva University (Cardozo) |
58
|
-6
|
64
|
Loyola University Chicago |
76
|
+8
|
68
|
Seton Hall University |
64
|
-4
|
68
|
University of Denver (Sturm) |
64
|
-4
|
68
|
University of Kansas |
86
|
+18
|
68
|
American University (Washington) |
56
|
-16
|
72
|
Illinois Institute of Technology (Chicago- Kent) |
68
|
-4
|
72
|
Lewis & Clark College (Northwestern) |
80
|
+8
|
72
|
LSU — Baton Rouge (Hebert) |
76
|
+4
|
72
|
University of New Mexico |
64
|
-8
|
72
|
University of Tennessee— Knoxville |
61
|
-11
|
72
|
University of Tulsa |
86
|
+14
|
72
|
University of Cincinnati |
80
|
+1
|
79
|
University of San Diego |
68
|
-11
|
79
|
Rutgers, Camden |
91
|
+10
|
81
|
University of Pittsburgh |
91
|
+10
|
81
|
Brooklyn Law School |
80
|
-3
|
83
|
Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey— Newark |
86
|
+3
|
83
|
University of Nevada— Las Vegas |
68
|
-15
|
83
|
West Virginia University |
91
|
+8
|
83
|
Indiana University— Indianapolis (McKinney) |
98
|
+11
|
87
|
Loyola Marymount University |
68
|
-19
|
87
|
Michigan State University |
80
|
-7
|
87
|
Seattle University |
102
|
+15
|
87
|
University of Louisville (Brandeis) |
68
|
-19
|
87
|
Wayne State University |
105
|
+18
|
87
|
Marquette University |
94
|
+1
|
93
|
Northeastern University |
86
|
-7
|
93
|
Stetson University |
109
|
+16
|
93
|
St. Louis University |
102
|
+9
|
93
|
University of New Hampshire School of Law |
119
|
+26
|
93
|
University of South Carolina |
98
|
+5
|
93
|
Villanova University |
98
|
+5
|
93
|
Florida International University |
105
|
+5
|
100
|
SUNY Buffalo Law School |
86
|
-14
|
100
|
University of Hawaii— Manoa (Richardson) |
80
|
-20
|
100
|
University of Oregon |
94
|
-6
|
100
|
Mercer University (George) |
105
|
+1
|
104
|
University of Mississippi |
102
|
-2
|
104
|
University of Missouri— Kansas City |
109
|
+5
|
104
|
The Catholic University of America |
80
|
-27
|
107
|
Gonzaga University |
113
|
+6
|
107
|
Santa Clara University |
96
|
-11
|
107
|
St. John’s University |
98
|
-9
|
107
|
Syracuse University |
96
|
-11
|
107
|
Texas Tech University |
105
|
-2
|
107
|
CUNY |
132
|
+19
|
113
|
Drake University |
109
|
-4
|
113
|
Cleveland State University (Cleveland- Marshall) |
119
|
+4
|
115
|
Creighton University |
119
|
+4
|
115
|
Washburn University |
140
|
+25
|
115
|
Albany Law School |
132
|
+14
|
118
|
Quinnipiac University |
134
|
+16
|
118
|
University of Idaho |
134
|
+16
|
118
|
Campbell University |
126
|
+5
|
121
|
DePaul University |
109
|
-12
|
121
|
Duquesne University |
144
|
+23
|
121
|
Hamline University |
126
|
+5
|
121
|
University of Akron |
119
|
-2
|
121
|
University of Arkansas— Little Rock (Bowen) |
113
|
-8
|
121
|
University of Montana |
113
|
-8
|
121
|
Willamette University (Collins) |
T2
|
+25
|
121
|
Drexel University |
126
|
-3
|
129
|
University of Maine |
134
|
+5
|
129
|
University of North Dakota |
140
|
+11
|
129
|
University of St. Thomas |
124
|
-5
|
129
|
University of Wyoming |
113
|
-16
|
129
|
Vermont Law School |
119
|
-10
|
129
|
Hofstra University (Deane) |
113
|
-22
|
135
|
Howard University |
126
|
-9
|
135
|
Samford University (Cumberland) |
113
|
-22
|
135
|
University of Baltimore |
134
|
-1
|
135
|
William Mitchell College of Law |
134
|
-1
|
135
|
Chapman University (Fowler) |
126
|
-14
|
140
|
New York Law School |
T2
|
+6
|
140
|
Pace University |
134
|
-6
|
140
|
University of Memphis (Humphreys) |
144
|
+4
|
140
|
University of Toledo |
T2
|
+6
|
140
|
University of South Dakota |
T2
|
+1
|
145
|
The Analysis
Big Drops
Okay, it’s commentary time. First off I want to point how spot on I was that American was headed for big trouble. They went from the 40’s two years ago to the 50’s last year, and now took a whopping negative sixteen dive to the 72 spot this year. While drops like that are common outside the top 100, it’s not often you see them up top: only Washington and Lee did worse in the top 100.
Washington and Lee’s slide is very bizarre, as unlike American they are doing a fine job attracting quality students. If we were to rank W&L by median LSAT alone, they would still be a top 25 school. While some less well-endowed private schools are having trouble attracting students, who are fleeing for in-state tuition at public schools, W&L doesn’t seem to have that problem, so who knows what’s up. I’ll try to find out. I’m guessing that whatever the problem is it will be corrected soon and W&L will stay strongish long term.
Choosing The Best School Law for You
Start with the source of these rankings: US News and World Report’s Best Graduate Schools. This well-known guide ranks schools to help you pick reaches, targets, and safeties. Along with the rankings, you’ll find plenty of valuable articles and advice, along with tons of information about specific schools.
Also check out this reputable rankings guide from Princeton Review:
UPDATE 3.12.14: So it appears the Washington and Lee’s trouble may be linked to some drastic changes they have made of late. A sharp 40% reduction in class size (the biggest reduction thus far at any school) may have hurt their ability to spend. Also, W&L has had poor job placement relative to its peers of late, possibly the result of its move to an experience-based learning model for third year students. Read here for a report on the poor results of that program.
The Top 14
Yale is at 1 as always. Stanford jumped down to number 3, but it seems to alternate spots with Harvard (or tie) every other year. No big deal. Chicago is holding strong at the 4 spot which I like to see (That’s my school, baby!) Columbia and Chicago have shared the 4 and 5 spots for about the last four years or so, so the top 5 is pretty stable lately.
Lower down, the big surprise is Duke creeping into the top 10, even if they got there by a tie. Good for Duke. Still, my guess is they’ll be back down soon enough. Michigan continues its slide relative to its peer schools. The lower end of the top 10 is going to be their home for a while I would guess, but they’ll still always be a T10ish school.
All and all, it’s business as usual in the T14. Stuff moves around, but these schools so dominate the reputation component of the rankings that it’s tough to displace them. I could picture UT-Austin becoming part of this group so that we can finally start talking about a T15, but these schools will always be the elite group.
The Top 50
Nothing too much worth commenting on here aside from the aforementioned Washington and Lee. A lot of public schools have taken slight jumps, showing that they are weathering the applications drop well. I continue to pump in-state tuition as your best option if you aren’t going to an elite school, so think about backing the winners and go that route if you are headed to law school.
Public schools situated in stronger markets are going to do the best right now while the legal economy remains tepid. You can see some evidence of that throughout the top 50 (William and Mary, U of Washington, U of Georgia, U of Illinois)
There are also some outstanding performers in the private school category: BYU has been doing a fantastic job being by cheaper than everyone and providing better employment stats than many comparably ranked schools; that’s reflected in their eight-point jump. Southern Methodist is also doing well, likely on the strength of the good job prospects in its target market of Texas.
Reading The Rankings
Don’t put too much stock in little jumps and dips in the rankings. I’ve been watching these since I started law school, and schools usually stay in the same general area. Bear in mind that the lower down you go, the more arbitrary the rankings get. Past 50, it’s not uncommon to see huge leaps and big drops. It’s not always very closely tied to reality.
RELATED: HOW TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE GREAT APPLICATIONS DROP
The rankings should always only be a starting point for your research. If a school has been headed down in the rankings, that’s something to look into, but it’s usually just a minor shakeup. As we always say, the most important thing to look at when you are deciding between schools is how much the school costs and the kind of job prospects they can offer you.
UPDATE 3.12.14: INSIDE THE US NEWS BEST LAW SCHOOL RANKINGS – MEDIAN LSAT
I’m going to add some extra info about specific parts of the rankings, which can better help you understand why schools are where they are on the list. Here is a table of the top 25 school’s median LSAT scores from the class entering in fall 2013. These median LSAT scores accounted for 12.5% of this year’s rankings.
2015 Overall USNews Ranking | Law School | 2013 Median LSAT |
1 | Yale | 173 |
2 | Harvard | 173 |
3 | Stanford | 171 |
4 | Columbia | 171 |
4 | Chicago | 170 |
6 | NYU | 170 |
7 | U Penn | 169 |
8 | UVA | 169 |
9 | Berkeley | 167 |
10 | Michigan | 168 |
10 | Duke | 169 |
12 | Northwestern | 168 |
13 | Cornell | 167 |
13 | Georgetown | 168 |
15 | UT Austin | 166 |
16 | UCLA | 167 |
16 | Vanderbilt | 167 |
18 | WUSTL | 166 |
19 | Emory | 165 |
20 | GW | 165 |
20 | Minnesota | 164 |
20 | USC | 166 |
23 | Alabama | 164 |
24 | William and Mary | 164 |
24 | Washington | 164 |
As you can see, LSAT medians line up pretty well, but not perfectly, with this year’s rankings. Median LSAT helps assess roughly how desirable each school is, as all things being equal stronger LSAT scorers tend to get their pick of schools.
Observers may notice that median LSATs have fallen quite a bit from back in 2008/2009/2010 when overall law school attendance was strong. Basically, like we’ve been saying, law schools are easier than ever to get into. Even the highest ranked schools are having trouble maintaining their numbers given the dearth of applicants. I will try to dig up a chart from back then to compare, but The Legal Whiteboard provides some ready statistics about this year’s changes, which are pretty substantial:
The average decline in median LSAT scores between 2012 and 2013 across U.S. News “tiers” of law schools was .98 among top 50 schools, 1.18 among schools ranked 51-99, .72 among schools ranked 100-144, and 1.13 among schools ranked alphabetically.
Notably, 133 law schools saw a decline in their median LSAT between 2012 and 2013, with 80 down one point, 38 down two points, 12 down three points, one down four points, one down five points and one down six points, while 54 law schools were flat and 7 saw an increase in their median LSAT.
Some schools are experiencing “larger” declines in median LSAT scores between 2012 and 2013. Five schools in the top 50 saw a three-point decline in their median LSAT. Five schools ranked 51-99 saw at least a three-point decline (of which one was down four points). Three schools ranked 100-144 saw a three-point decline.
The average decline in median LSAT scores between 2010 and 2013 across U.S. News “tiers” of law schools was 1.54 among top 50 schools, 2.27 among schools ranked 51-99, 2.11 among schools ranked 100-144, and 2.79 among schools ranked alphabetically. If one were to unpack the top 50 schools a little more, however, one would discover that the top 20 schools saw an average decline in their median LSAT of 1.05 between 2010 and 2013, while the bottom 15 schools in the top 50 saw an average decline in their median LSAT of 2.53.
In terms of schools experiencing “larger” declines in median LSAT scores between 2010 and 2013, three schools in the top 50 have seen declines of four or more points, nine schools ranked 51-99 have seen declines of four or more points, 11 schools ranked 100-144 have seen declines of four or more points and 17 schools ranked alphabetically have seen declines of four or more points.
So there you have it. Median LSAT scores are down all over the board. Where you see big swings in the rankings this year, median LSAT is likely playing a role (such as at American University, which relaxed admissions standards to a frightening extent). A large number of lower-ranked schools, in particular, have had significant difficulty attracting the kind of students they used to have.
We’ll keep updating with more in-depth looks at different parts of the rankings, so bookmark the page and follow us on twitter @onlawschool.
12 Comments
Ahh! Thank you so much for your reply. This website has been amazing since the first day of my law school journey. I have used it for pre-law advice, through the LSAT, the application process, and now during decision time! Thank you so much for all of this information; this website is truly a blessing!!!
I am a recent college graduate…scored a 151 on the LSAT with 3.785. I believe that I had a strong personal statement and diversity statement (I am a URM), strong letters of recs/evals, and a strong resume (including legal experience and starting a prelaw organization on campus).
I got my applications in during the first week of Nov and was accepted to UA with $, UGA, and Emory with $. But, I’m afraid of attending because of the “first year curve”? Is this a valid concern? Will schools accept just to fill their seats or are they accepting you because they feel you will succeed? Is your LSAT score then end all be all of your first year performance?
Thanks!
Sounds like you’ve got some really solid options PeaJay! Congrats!
For schools like UAlabama, UGA & Emory to accept you with those numbers, it sounds like you’ve got some strong softs.
Yes, the law school grading curve can be brutal, but if law schools aren’t going to accept you if they don’t think you can handle is. The LSAT is correlated with law school performance, but it’s certainly not a perfect predictor.
Don’t be intimidated just because your numbers are on the low side. Go to the best school possible (without any additional info, Emory with $ sounds like a really great deal!), and never look back. Your LSAT score doesn’t limit your ability to crush 1L exams. 1L year can be tough, but it’s tough for everyone. Study your ass off during 1L year & prove that you’re in the right place!
Congrats!
Hey Jousha my name is Solange , I am an African from Cameroon with a permanent resident here in the United States and have a degree from my country in Law and Political sciences. I want to fine out exactly what my chances are ingetting into a law school. Do i have to prepare and take the lsat exams or is there anything else I will need to do. Thks in advance.
I am currently in grad school and planning to apply to law school in December after I take the LSAT. I was reading an article that discussed undergrad grades but didn’t read anything about graduate school grades. Do graduate school grades count when we apply to law school? If so, do they look at those more than they look at undergrad?
Thanks,
Jordanne
They do not look at graduate grades
Hello Guys!
So I just took my LSAT in February and I ended up with a 158. What do you guys think are my chances at Cornell and William & Mary? I’m a Junior and currently my undergraduate GPA is a 3.96 (with only one semester left that they willl see on the application). I work part time at Morgan Lewis as a Paralegal/Intern and have worked at the PA Attorney General’s Office. I’m also Latino. According to LSAC they give me a 17% to 27% chance at Cornell and 26% to 36% chance at William & Mary. I just wanted to hear imput from you all. I’ll most likely retake my LSAT next year. I need something in the 160’s at least…hahaha.
Thank you,
Anthony
Thanks G-d, we have your website, Evan!
You really answered exactly my question! I will definitely consider either UCLA or USC!
Thank you so much!
Lionel
Hi!
For someone who wants to do Entertainment, which is more beneficial aside from scholarship: Pepperdine 2 year program or USC/UCLA.
Thank you in advance for your advices!
Hi Lionel,
Be aware that entertainment law is always, always a long shot, even from an elite school. There are certainly a lot more successful entertainment lawyers coming from USC or UCLA than there are from Pepperdine. Both USC and UCLA offer a lot of classes with an entertainment focus. While it’s definitely a good idea to pursue your interests, make sure you are developing skills for areas of the law where hiring is stronger as well.
Thank you for your advice, Evan!
Based on what you stated, would you recommend Pepperdine OR UCLA/USC? The reason I ask is because by completing the program in 2 years at Pepperdine, one can save 1 year of housing & transportation cost.
Many thanks!
Well, do you have a scholarship at Pepperdine? If the cost is about the same at both and you are just adding housing/transit for one year, then I would definitely go to either UCLA or USC.