September 2014 LSAT Score Release Discussion

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Update 5:50 PM EST — Score Release Confirmed!!!

Here’s the curve: A -12 gets you a 170. Snapshot:

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Bear in mind that scores often take as long as a couple hours to roll out. If you don’t have yours yet be patient. Check in here to tell us how you did!

 

Some More Updates:

5:45 EST: There are reports that the email date has been changed to today’s date. Get ready for it!

5:30 EST: It now appears that a lot of people are seeing gray!

4:49 EST: Killoran also posted part of an email from LSAC to verify his claim: http://imgur.com/1BdX666. Either LSAC lied or scores will be out today. Try to not refresh the LSAC site so much that you break it!

4:03 EST: Dave Killoran (CEO of Powerscore) claims to have official word from LSAC that scores will be out today.

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3:23 EST: Kaplan, Blueprint, Powerscore AND USNews have all jumped the gun. USNews published an article 5 hours ago with the author saying scores had been released. Clearly he was just guessing that they would be by the time of publication.

3:10 EST: Powerscore is also claiming some scores are out. Where’s the proof???

3:00 EST: Some TLS users report seeing gray. It could be starting soon.

2:55 EST: Kaplan and Blueprint appear to have jumped the gun by tweeting that scores were being released. They’ve fallen victim to believing people on Twitter. I’m waiting to see a curve sheet before I confirm. No one on TLS even reports “going gray” yet.

2:50 EST: As of yet no one has confirmed receiving their score, and everything is still “green.” LSAC’s site is slowing down however, which often happens just as scores are about to be released. Fingers-crossed for you guys. It’s 99% probable the release will happen today, so don’t stress!

SCORE RELEASE UPDATE:

When will September 2014 LSAT scores be released?

September 2014 LSAT Scores are scheduled to be released on October 22nd.

I think you’re most likely to see an October 16th, 17th or 20th release date. Historically, when LSAC schedules a Wednesday release date in October, the scores generally come out on Monday, two days earlier. That would be the 20th. I peg that as the most likely release date.

I do think, however, that we could potentially see a release date as early as today or tomorrow.

Here’s why…

June scores were scheduled to be released on Monday, July 7th and were released on Tuesday, July 1st. As the number of people taking the LSAT continues its decline, it may be easier for them to process scores. In any case… I wouldn’t start obsessively refreshing your inbox until the 16th or 17th 🙂

If scores aren’t out by Friday, it’s highly unlikely that they’ll be released over the weekend… so feel free to relax and enjoy the weekend.

We’ll keep you posted with any updates as they come in, so be sure to check back regularly over the coming days.

If anyone sees any activity from LSAC, please send in your tips by using the comments section below this post.


 

How did the September 2014 LSAT go?

As is tradition here at lawschooli.com, here is a post where we can discuss the LSAT that was administered today, September 27th, 2014.

We’ll update this post to track the September 2014 LSAT here as we get more information and you can use the comments section below this post to discuss the score release and anything else related to this test (how it went, do you need to retake, etc.)

Let the discussion begin! – Looking forward to hearing from everyone in the comments below.


Update 1: It looks like the first round of test-takers are now finishing up! Hope you CRUSHED it today!


Update 2: From what I’m hearing…
The real LG section had 23 questions & a bouquet game & house owners game.
The real RC section had 27 questions & a Darwin passage & cameras passage & property ownership passage


Update 3: We’ve been able to confirm the following…

REAL LG:

  • 23 Questions
  • Flowers/Bouquet
  • Houses/Buildings
  • CDs/Performances
  • Gold Room/Rose Room

REAL RC:

  • 27 Questions
  • Property Ownership/Property Transfer
  • Darwin/Natural Selection
  • Cameras/Photography
  • Advertising


 

184 Comments

  1. Real LG was flowers, buildings, a sequence, and people giving speeches/performances or something.

    Real RC was transfer of property, natural selection, etc.

    My first LR was experimental, assuming that there were 101 questions total, as the other two were 26/25 and RC was 27 and LG 23.

    Thought RC was more difficult than usual and the flowers game took me longer than game should, but other games were pretty straightforward.

    • So right now we’ve confirmed the following passages/games appeared on the real LG and real RC sections… can anyone help us fill in the 4th game/passage?

      REAL LG:
      Flowers/Bouquet
      Houses/Buildings
      Speeches/Performances

      REAL RC:
      Property Ownership/Property Transfer
      Darwin/Natural Selection
      Cameras/Photography

      • The other game was ordering songs on a CD I believe! I think it was songs….the names were in italics.

      • i think hannah is right! I believe the CD game was with the LG section as flowers game. I had two LGs.

  2. I had two logic game sections and trying to figure out which is experimental. One was super easy and the other I had trouble with. Over all the rc and logical reasoning sections weren’t too bad. But I’m freaking out over the logic games; could make or break me

  3. Experimental LG on my exam. Overall, LG and LR were both straight forward, but the RC was a bit rough. There was a pretty “out there” passage, and I wasn’t able to complete the RC.

  4. Arguments seemed easier than previous PTs, so did RC. I had three arguments sections, so one of them was experimental. Games threw me too—pretty much bombed it. I’ve heard a lot of others complaining about the games being super open ended/somehow different.

  5. In your opinion how good of a job does LSAC do of keeping the consistency of curves among separate exams.

    I took the June 2014 exam which I thought was difficult overall…and was debating between September/December 2014 retake and decided on Dec

    So far the consensus on TLS ( which may be unrepresentative given the amount of top scorers)…is that Sept 2014 was easier and there were no odd logic games like in June

    How close to the curves match up to the difficulty of the test? In my opinion a 165 should reflect the same level of reasoning whether or not a test was easier or harder

  6. Hey,

    Just took the lsat today for the first time. Not unhappy, but taking it again in December because it can’t hurt. Have already read the powerscore bibles and Kaplan book. What would you recommend for a study method for the next 10 weeks? Practices tests every other day? Reread the bibles?

    • Jake,

      Sorry to hear that things didn’t seem to go your way today.

      First thing I’d do: throw the Kaplan book away

      Second thing I’d to: Pick up a copy of the LSAT Trainer. That book has proven to be very effective for retakers.

      Third thing I’d do: take a look at this post… Retaking The LSAT: How to Make Sure Your Score Improves, then come back here with any followup questions!

      How many timed, simulated LSAT preptests did you take before today’s exam? How long did you study for the exam? There are a number of common mistakes that people frequently make in their LSAT prep… take a look at the replay of the webinar Evan and I did on this topic & make sure you don’t make those mistakes when you’re prepping for December.

      • Hi josh, I don’t think I did well on this LSAT due to poor prepping for the logic games. I had to guess for most of the questions, therefore probably bombing the section. Would you recommend I take it a second time in December or wait till June? Or maybe even take it all 3 times? Going to law school in the Fall of 2015 is not a priority for me, I would be willing to wait a year if my score can substantially improve.

  7. Nathaniel Johnson on

    Had RC as experimental. Relatively easy however the games seemed tougher than usual. Idk. I always feel that whenever there is an easy section, another section makes up for this lack of difficulty by being unnecessarily cruel. The LR seemed pretty standard as well. Thoughts?

    • Hi. I am very disappointed with my performance on Saturday’s test. I didn’t feel nervous but I’m hoping that’s what caused me to blank out. I just couldn’t focus…even for the logic games which I have been practicing for 6 months. I completed the test but cancelled my score before leaving. I will be retaking in December but am feeling pretty shaky about my abilities. I have been following the bible series and the lsat trainer. I also have your 12 week study schedule. I have to admit that I never really took the simulated tests, however. I took the tests in sections. Hopefully that was my downfall. I don’t have enough money for a tutor but I sure could use help. I will be strictly following your schedule until Decembers test. Would you recommend my getting a tutor for one or two sessions? I was the oldest person at the test, which surprised me. Everyone is telling me that my brain is just not going to work as it did while in my 20’s. I’m not ready to give in; any words of encouragement? Again, I’m pretty disappointed in myself but am ready to start again… Thanks for being there!!

      • Diane – Do NOT listen to anyone about your age! I am a 37 year old wife and mother of 3 little boys and was by FAR the oldest at the test ~ I actually started cracking up when I walked in because the “kids” taking the test looked like the age of my oldest son!

        Being older can work to your advantage! Your life experience and the workload of daily adult life can certainly put the LSAT, associated stress, and amount of work it takes to study properly in perspective. I heard many kids yesterday say they “didn’t have time to study because they were working and going to school”…seriously??? When you’re young, basically ALL you have is time! The younger kids cannot know this yet, though, because only age any experience can give you that perspective!

        Try carving out 3-5 hours a day to study while raising a family, getting up and night with sick children, caring for aging parents, running a household, two family businesses, and trying to maintain a healthy marriage! You MAKE TIME for things that are important! You CAN do this!

        Also, with regards to “your brain not working like it does in your
        20’s”…. to that I call BS!!!

        On my first PT I scored a “4” in LG – that’s right, I got FOUR QUESTIONS RIGHT on my first PT, LOL! By the end of the 12 weeks (I used the 12 week guide on this forum and every single recommended book) I was regularly -4 on LG games! So…don’t let your age stop you or nonsense about your brain not working as you age!

        Remember, you’re only going to get older anyway! Think of it this way – in four years you’re going to be four years older regardless; might as well add a JD to your life and resume in the meantime!!! 🙂
        Don’t give up!!

      • thank you sooo much for your comment. it’s just the reminder and boost i needed. I am also ‘older’ 38 and have some of the same challenges. Yet it’s true we can do and must make the time commitment to get it done.

      • Diana , I agree with Amanda. Being older can have its advantages. Your life experiences will be a plus on the law school application. I am an older applicant to. Im 39. I will be retaking the test in December. The test isn’t easy but with practice and discipline you can do well. Taking a simulated tests is a must. The brain is a muscle and it will continue to improve as long as you work it no matter what age you are.

      • Ok not wanting to make anyone laugh but really!!! in that case all my brain cells are fried, seeing as I am at the later part of well on my way to 50. I had law school on my bucket list and decided to do it now, and I must say for someone coming from England i really will like 5 mins in a room with who ever came up with this LSATS concept. Anyway, that aside, please do not give up, you can do this and i am sure you will knock it out the park in Dec. Personally i left the LSATS on saturday glad i may have another chance in Dec and have a positive outlook on it, at least now i know what to expect.

        I was shocked and i do mean shocked that i could actually finish each test (of course accuracy being another matter entirely) but was very disappointed with the LC sections i mean what was all that about? As for the LG i froze too but picked up a bit later and like you had been practicing those game for a while.

        So the moral of this story is like everyone else on here has said you are never too old. I have a Bachelors and two Masters that includes an MBA and believe me the LASATs is still the hardest exam i have taken, so there!

    • Josh, Ian –

      Great work with lawschooli. So much of what you guys do helps a lot of people.

      The case is cracked for LG and RC. Do you have any more insight on which questions were on experimental LR vs scored? This seems to be the biggest question mark around. Many thanks.

    • Quick question about law school rankings and matriculation decision…

      If you are married, raising a family, and certain you will stay in the market in which you attend law school (no plans of trying to find employment in a different market), and one law school is ranked #18 and the other is ranked #93 (but quite strong regionally) – for employment purposes, is it better to go to a lower ranked school that you have a much stronger chance of being ranked in the top 10% after 1L grades, or is it better to go to the much higher ranked, much more academically competitive school?

      If the end goal is employment with one of the region’s largest firms, what do you think the best strategy would be in this case? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

      • I’ve seen no evidence that they’ve been released. My guess is the author is just being lazy and assuming that by this evening they’ll be released, which will almost certainly happen.

      • No, they are not, I just looked at my LSAC Page and it says Email Score Date will be October 22 .

      • They always say that and release it earlier anyway. The scores not coming out today would actually be quite unprecedented. They’ve been at least two days early on every release since I don’t know when. The only exception was when Hurricane Sandy closed their office around the planned release.

      • OMG, I just got my score back and while it is not perfect I did much better than I did the last time. YES

    • Hey guys-
      I got a 165 on this past LSAT and my GPA is a 4.0. It was the second time I took the test and I was wondering if I should take it again in December? I studied for about three months before the September one and I was averaging 168-169 on the prep tests with a couple reaching 171 and 172. If I do take it again, what material should I study? I exhausted all the prep tests and study books so I do not know where to start.
      Thanks!

      • I think it depends on what school you want to attend. The LSAT is not cheap. The median is around 154, I think and you have way better score than that in my book. I can see you getting accepted to a lot of schools with that score, so I feel as though maybe you should focus on prep courses for law school. These are courses that begin to prep for the work in law school, but I would hold off until late spring or summer, especially if you are still undergraduate school as you still need to keep your grades up and graduate. The money you would spend on another LSAT can be your deposit to a school and when you decide to a law school, be picky and don’t send deposits all over because I am pretty sure you will not get them back if you decide to go elsewhere. You can also save that money for first year’s books or transportation to your new school. Please don’t take this as me telling you not to care about your score, but the application process is so much much more. Are you working on your personal statement? What experience do you have? Are you volunteering at a firm? What are your school activities? Do you have any?
        I say at the end of the day, what’s most important to YOU is what counts.

      • Sandydee-
        Thank you for your advice! It is very helpful. I’m looking at UT Austin, UCLA, and maybe Georgetown (but thats really a reach school). In regards to my personal statement, I am starting and hoping to finish it this weekend . I have also interned at a law office and a courthouse. I am in three honor societies at my school and I participate in intramural’s (if that counts as a school activity). I also work 20 hours a week at the local community college and I have volunteered for a couple non-profits.

      • Cody Smith-

        I can see you getting into a lot of schools including the ones you really want to attend.. I am having my personal statements looked at for grammar and other things. I definitely wish you the best of luck and maybe one day on here when we are both in school we’ll talk again.

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