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June 2017 LSAT Discussion

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June 2017 LSAT Chat

Joshua Craven
it works!
Joshua Craven
So, I've set up this live chat feature for us to discuss the test without needing to refresh the browser
Anonymous3
So how'd the test go, everyone?
Anonymous13
I thought LG was easy
Joshua Craven
So, we're hearing that the REAL RC was: jazz, psychology, judge research; forgot the 4th
Joshua Craven
Can anyone help confirm that Jazz, Psychology and Judge Research were the real RC?
Joshua Craven
and does anyone know the 4th passage topic?
Anonymous26
That was the real RC, I had three LRs
Anonymous26
Two of my LRs had 25 questions the other had 26 I think, can anyone help me narrow down which one was the experimental?
Joshua Craven
Anyone who only had 2
Joshua Craven
please let us know!
Anonymous25
I had 2 LG sections
Joshua Craven
I'm hearing that 1 of the real LR sections had 25 questions and the other real LR section had 26
Joshua Craven
can anyone help confirm this?
Anonymous26
The real LG had the one with sending people to Milan Tokyo and Sydney
Anonymous34
I can confirm the milan, tokyo, and sydney was real.
Anonymous12
Anyone know if LR with vampires was real?
Anonymous25
Did the real LG have the 7 waiters in 2 intermissions?
Anonymous25
Vampires was real
Anonymous26
No, no waiters on the real LG
Joshua Craven
thanks
Joshua Craven
how about "photos" game
Anonymous26
photos was real
Anonymous55
Two LG, 1 RC, Two LG. one LG was experimental, likely section 3 (the first set)
Joshua Craven
how about "cities" game?
Joshua Craven
can anyone confirm if the "cities" game was real?
Anonymous26
Cities was real
Anonymous34
The fourth was about dowsing.
Anonymous26
would everyone's experimental have been the same section number?
Joshua Craven
No, they mix it up
Anonymous106
Cities game was real, I only had one LG
Anonymous106
Would that be the one with Manila Sydney and Tokyo?
Joshua Craven
Cities game was Milan/Tokyo/Sydney?
Anonymous34
Anyone with 2 LRs, was there a question towards the end of the section involving elements? Trying to figuee out if thats real or experimental
Joshua Craven
is that the same one?
Anonymous97
Was the 9 slot sequencing game with breweries on the real section?
Anonymous34
Breweries experimental
Anonymous97
Anonymous 34. Was that an answer to the breweries question?
Anonymous97
Thanks. That's a huge relief.
Anonymous34
Yes, sorry. Breweries experimental, cities game with M, S, and T
Anonymous106
Elements like tellerium?
Anonymous106
I had 2LRs and that was one of the ending questions for me
Anonymous97
Anonymous 34: Tell me a bit more about the elements question.
Anonymous97
That was real
Joshua Craven
elements like tellerium was on which section?
Anonymous34
It involved tellerium. It was the last ? I did in my last section, so maybe it wasnt that hard and i was just done at that point
Anonymous106
Logic Reasoning
Anonymous97
MBT or strongly supported with tellerium and rods was real
Anonymous106
Had to do with a nuclear power plant melting down and the elements being sprayed in the air
Joshua Craven
and we can confirm that was real?
Anonymous97
That was real. I had only 2 LR sections and had it.
Anonymous139
Real game had vault/ rope climb
Anonymous34
So that means that one of the LR sections definitely only had 25 questions.
Anonymous34
The nuclear plant/elements question was in the 25 ? section
Anonymous139
One real LR had chimps vs orangoutangs
Anonymous106
I had one LG and had vault, rope climb, wall and
Anonymous26
Real game included cities (Milan, Tokyo, and Sydney), sequencing the rope climb, vault, wall, etc, sequencing the photographs that were rural or urban, and I can't recall the other
Anonymous178
What letter did you choose about the chimps?
Anonymous163
I had 3 LR sections, 1st, 3rd, 5th.
Anonymous188
waiters was the experiemental
Anonymous34
I remember that question. I want to say that was not in my first LR section which only had 25 ?s. Could be wrong, but that leads me to believe that the LR experimental was one of the 25 ? ones so the two LR sections were 25/26 ?s
Anonymous108
I also has 3 LR sections, 1st, 3rd, 5th. Do we know which one's were real?
Anonymous34
It looks like 5th was real.
Anonymous122
Same anonymous163
Joshua Craven
Don't talk about answer choices please!
Anonymous163
I brlievevthe experimental LR was either the 3rd or 5th section
Anonymous34
Im thinking the 3rd since the 5th definitely had the nuclear power plant ?
Anonymous106
Cities, Rope Climb, Concerts, Photographs. I only had one LG and that's the games I ahd
Anonymous163
the LG section was extremely easy, for me at least
Anonymous97
Right. The first real LR had chimps and orangutans. And the second real one had the telerium/nuclear power plant question
Joshua Craven
keep in mind that it is possible to have multiple test forms with 3 LR sections, so it is generally not possible to determine which was experimental by the order of the sections.
Anonymous163
but yes, rope, cities was def the real LG
Anonymous97
Agree with you anonymous 163. But the experimental LG was not.
Anonymous97
I had 2 LR sections. First one had chimps orangutan question, and second had telerium question.
Joshua Craven
for LG i've got the following: Cities/Milan/Tokyo/Sydney & Photos/Rural/Urban Rope & Climb/Vault/Wall
Anonymous190
Was the chimps one the 26 question one?
Anonymous34
That looks right for LG
Joshua Craven
can any one help me identify the 4th LG topic?
Anonymous106
Concerts
Anonymous25
Was LG with junior VPs supervised by senior VPs real?
Anonymous106
I'm pretty sure I had one where they were determining order of who can perform
Anonymous106
I had two grouping and two linear
Anonymous34
Someone said concerts as well earlier but I don't remember the specifics.
Anonymous190
There was something about issues
Anonymous204
Intermissions question was fun...(not)
Anonymous106
Didn't have any VPs with senior VPs
Joshua Craven
Alright, I figured out how to turn on the enter/leave notifications
Joshua Craven
that's much better
Anonymous122
Concerts was the last Lg real
Anonymous190
Was the 26 question lr real?
Joshua Craven
Thanks!
Anonymous122
Photo, cities, concerts, rope wall zip line
Anonymous97
I'm pretty sure the Tokyo/cities one was the last LG.
Anonymous122
Yes but last one to be named in the discussion board!
Anonymous97
I think I had a 26 question LR and I had only 2 LRs
Anonymous97
Gotcha Anonymous 122
Anonymous34
It seems like for people who had exp. LR that one of the 25 ? ones was experimental, whichever one didnt have nuclear plant ?
Anonymous106
I was so happy when I didn't see any "weird" questions like the computer virus one
Joshua Craven
From what I'm hearing there was 1 26 section LR and 1 25 section LR
Anonymous106
27 RC, 23 LG
Anonymous260
What did you all think about the RC? (difficulty level)?
Anonymous97
Pretty standard RC. Only one moderately tough passage, IMO.
Anonymous34
The RC psychology passage was a bit difficult to get through. The other ones seemed fairly normal
Anonymous294
Ugh that was so hard
Anonymous97
That's the one moderately tough one I was referring to.
Anonymous190
I thought RC was brutal just because it was pretty differebt
Anonymous188
RC was def brutal
Anonymous260
The dowsing one was okay...but psychology one was def hard
Anonymous122
Agreed
Anonymous260
I was caught in my "inferential" thinking while reading the passage LOL
Anonymous188
for those that had two LR .. were both 26 questions ?
Anonymous255
That psychology passage was a mindf**k
Anonymous260
I think one had 26, one had 24 or 25?
Anonymous97
I think one 26 LR, one 25 LR.
Anonymous34
I've heard one was 25 (the one with nuclear power) and one was 26
Anonymous260
yup. ^
Anonymous97
They mess with your mind by putting the hardest passage second.
Anonymous34
Does anyone remember any ?s from the 26 ? one besides chimps and orangutans
Anonymous178
Can I ask about the word that was on the RC section?
Anonymous34
Real RC was jazz, dowsing, psychology/inferences, and judge research
Anonymous188
yeah can you guys plz provide more questions for the LR .. I had three LR sections and I'm trying to figure out which was the experimental
Anonymous97
Anon 188. I can try to answer you if you ask about a specific question.
Anonymous188
one LR was really brutal and I didn't finish in time
Anonymous260
RC - word question?
Anonymous34
The only thing ppl with 2 LRs have confirmed is nuclear plant at the end of a section was real as well as chimps/orangutans
Anonymous178
Yeah there were a word in a question I'm trying to remember it but can't
Anonymous97
I can confirm whether I had specific questions if you ask, but I don't specifically remember questions without being prompted.
Anonymous178
about the independent reserach
Anonymous178
it was one word answer the meaning
Anonymous348
Waiters/Intermissions
Anonymous348
Waiters/Intermissions was not real
Anonymous34
Anyone w/ 2 LRs remember a question about europe and fire, it was early in the section. Im trying to remember if it was the same section as the nuclear one
Anonymous260
lol europe & fire question took me literally 2+ minutes..
Anonymous260
I kept misreading the question..
Longest3WeeksEver
y'all just legit made my day. I had 2 LG sections and the 1st one, which was apparently the exp., absolutely killed me
Anonymous97
I think that LSAC compensated for an unusually easy LG section with a kinda wierd LR.
Anonymous97
Same experience as you anon 360.
Anonymous178
Was it copious?
Anonymous97
more details about europe and fire?
Joshua Craven
Can we confirm that Europe/Fire was on the a real LR section?
Anonymous97
doesn't ring a bell, but I can't say for certain without a bit more prompting.
Longest3WeeksEver
Yes; I had 2 games sections and the Europe/Fire was one of my LR
Anonymous34
If thats the case then i am 99% sure that the exp. LR was 25 ?s
Anonymous97
Pretty sure there was one 26 LR and one 25 LR.
Anonymous394
I had 2 LR and 2 RC 1 LG section
Anonymous394
not sure ab the Europe/fire thing
Longest3WeeksEver
Europe/Fire was real. I only had 2 LR sections; my exp was a games
Anonymous361
Any one have a game with flowers? Or appointments for w-f
Anonymous34
No flowers on real LG
Anonymous260
nope no flowers
Anonymous34
Also someone can confirm or deny, but i think a question about chlorophyll was in the same as the nuclear elements ?, meaning it would be real
Anonymous34
*same section
Longest3WeeksEver
@Anon34 - not sure if it was in the same sections but the chlorophyll was a real.
Anonymous29
For those with two LR sections, did you find one of them to be very difficult? I had three and two of them were pretty easy but my first section was brutal
Anonymous433
I had 3 LR sections and one of them I do not even remember what I read smh
Anonymous34
I thought the 25 ? (What i now know to be real) section was hardest. My other two were about the same.
Anonymous433
so the 25 questions LR was real?
Anonymous433
i kinda froze on the essay part too cry
Longest3WeeksEver
I don't remember the numbers on any of them except that the games I tanked on, which was apparently exp, had 23
Anonymous323
For people with 3 LR, did the order go LR RC LR LG LR? And if it did, which was experimental?
Anonymous433
my order went just like yours 323
Anonymous29
That was my order
Anonymous29
the last LR is definitely real
Anonymous29
im not sure about the 1st or 3rd though
Anonymous433
i bummed the last one and thought the 1/2 were okay
Anonymous29
For me the last one had the elements question
Anonymous452
Breweries was brutal
Longest3WeeksEver
The whole section that had the Breweries was brutal for me; didn't get close to finishing
Anonymous97
Breweries wasn't real. Thank Heavens.
Joshua Craven
Real LR Sections – (25 Questions & 26 Questions) Real Questions: -Nuclear Plant/Meltdown/Elements/Tellurium [Last Question of Section] -Chimps/Orangutans -Chlorophyll -Europe/Fire
Joshua Craven
any others we can think of?
Anonymous34
I feel like there was one about mosquitoes and gas
Longest3WeeksEver
mosquitoes & gas was real
Anonymous106
Yes can confirm
Anonymous511
Which one was the experimental, anyone remember one question?
Anonymous97
It seems like the real LSAT was composed of one harder than average LR, one regular LR, a pretty regular RC with one hard passage, and an easier than usual LG section. That was my experience and seems to have been confirmed by others.
Anonymous106
The section that had the question about the mammals that need to go into mom's pouches was real
Longest3WeeksEver
I'll recognize them if I see them but I'm drawing blanks just trying to come up with them. If I'd known this place existed, I might've tried to remember more
Anonymous97
I second 106 about the mosquitoes and the marsupials.
Anonymous29
What about the one that had to do with natural gas power plants
Anonymous34
Also (i believe it was in the section with the elements question), there was a parallel ? about medicine effectiveness
Longest3WeeksEver
Anon34...i think you're right
Anonymous34
It was a flaw ?
Anonymous34
I remember the rest but dont want to break any rules giving any more info
Longest3WeeksEver
I believe so
Anonymous106
Someone mentioned VPs being supervised by senior VPs, was that on exp LG?
Anonymous34
Experimental
Anonymous97
Experimental
Anonymous423
anyone else feel like RC was really weird?
Longest3WeeksEver
oh, there was one about CEOs/Managers ...that's real
Anonymous433
remember that LR question
Anonymous542
This chat is so much better than refreshing forums smile
Anonymous433
its about CEOs writing a manual about managers or something like that
Anonymous97
Yes, there was a CEO/manager LR
Longest3WeeksEver
I'm so glad I found this, I was seriously stressing about how horrible my first games section was
Anonymous97
Anonymous 360: I'm in the same boat as you!
Anonymous34
There was also an LR ? about movie reviewers
Anonymous106
Yes reviewers and critica
Anonymous106
critics
Anonymous438
If the breweries logic games was real, I was about to go drink every type of beer from every type of brewery to drown my sorrows.
Anonymous34
This is really general but i want to say there was a ? about nutrients/diet effectiveness in LR
Anonymous433
yes there was
Longest3WeeksEver
@Anon438...that seems to be the consensus . That entire section was horrible
Anonymous260
I still don't know the answer to the single word question from RC XD
Anonymous260
dead right now even after googling it
Anonymous544
For people who had two RCs, what was your order?
Longest3WeeksEver
260..which question was that?
Longest3WeeksEver
oh, there was a LR question about swamps and another about an (energy?) plant & pipelines
Anonymous615
anyone think the reading comp was difficult
Anonymous34
I remember the energy plants and pipeline one.
Anonymous615
first two secitons
Anonymous423
RC was very hard
Longest3WeeksEver
I found it difficult as well. Then I started questioning myself because of my answer pattern, lol
Anonymous670
The @Anonymous438 the beer is experimental
Anonymous542
How did everyone feel about the LG section generally?
Anonymous34
I thought LG was fairly straightforward
Anonymous34
I didnt have experimental LG but there didn't seem to be any curveball games in the real section
Anonymous542
I thought it was a relatively easy LG section
Longest3WeeksEver
the real LG wasn'y bad
Anonymous542
any curve predictions?
Anonymous34
I think the one LR being difficult could have the potential to make it a bit forgiving
Longest3WeeksEver
I could've done without the psychology RC
Anonymous546
Totally blanking on the test right now -- which was the difficult LR?
Longest3WeeksEver
I think the 2nd? That's the one that took me the longest
Anonymous34
The one with the nuclear plant ?
Anonymous700
Psychology RC was definitely tough
Longest3WeeksEver
yeah, I believe that was in my 2nd one
Anonymous444
Was the LR with the ecology/physical sciences question last real?
Longest3WeeksEver
sadly, yes. That one caught me up lol
Anonymous743
Curve prediction?
Anonymous662
I had 3 LR sections. 1 of them that had 25 questions was by far the hardest section on the test for me. I seriously hope it's experimental.
Longest3WeeksEver
They said earlier the LRs had 25 and 26
Anonymous633
Was the RC with the earthquake passage as the last real or experimental?
Anonymous34
Experimental
Anonymous34
Real had jazz, dowsing, psychology, and research
Anonymous716
Mine went LR, RC, OR, LG, OR which one was the fake one? I did bad on the last LR
Anonymous662
@anonymous 360. I know, I just wish I could remember the questions from that hard passage so I could tell if it was experimental.
Anonymous716
LR not OR
Anonymous805
Did anyone have RC LR LG LR LG
Anonymous808
LG super easy...typically my best section, unfortunately doesn't look like it will give me much bump since others felt the same and there were no curveballs
Longest3WeeksEver
Anon805 - I did
Anonymous808
psych and judge rc sucked a little bit
Longest3WeeksEver
I thought I was going to run out of time thanks to the psych one
Anonymous808
Yeah, I moved a little too fast through the judge one at the end.
Anonymous852
I had LR RC LR LG LR. The last LR was fairly challenging with 25 questions and begins with "vampire victims." Is it real or experimental?
Anonymous97
yes, anon 808: lg particularly easy. It seems like the difficulty of this test was provided by an unusual LR section and 1 or 2 difficult RC passages.
Longest3WeeksEver
vampire was real
Anonymous716
@anonymous360 do you know which LR was fake the first or third?
Anonymous542
There are different test forms, so you can't really tell by the order of your sections.
Longest3WeeksEver
I don't, I'm sorry. I had 2 LGs.
Longest3WeeksEver
Just below the chat there's a list of some real questions though if that helps
Anonymous716
I see that I can't remember which questions were on my first and which were on my third. I guess I'll just have to wait until they release my score
Anonymous802
Anon 716 was your first or third worse?
Anonymous542
Anyone have any weird issues at their test center? We had a guy walk out of the test
Anonymous542
threw down his test and gave up
Anonymous802
one of our proctors forgot to give us the five minute warning for one of the sections
Anonymous802
people were really angry
Anonymous97
My test center was in an auditorium with those tiny little arm desks; not enough room to put even the entire test booklet, let alone the answer sheet and test booklet.
Anonymous802
that sucks
Longest3WeeksEver
d**n, I would've been p****d; that 5 minute warning is life
Anonymous854
Mine was next to a movie theatre... Boom boom boom
Anonymous97
People were really upset at the lack of space.
Anonymous716
My 5th was definitely the hardest first and third were similar if I had to pick I'd say 3rd was slightly easier
Longest3WeeksEver
Anon 802 - I think that's one of the issues you can report to LSAC
Anonymous888
My classroom was quiet and organized thankfully.
Anonymous97
LSAC seems to have everything down to a T. You'd think they'd verify if a testing center was adequate.
Anonymous542
@360 is there really any remedy for that sort of thing though?
Anonymous802
anon 716 was your fifth section the one with the tellurium question at the end?
Anonymous888
I think I did well except not so well on LG.
Anonymous542
Yeah, People always complain about tiny desks. You'd think they'd be able to find rooms with enough desk space
Anonymous97
Anon 888: Did you have 2 LGs, cuz if you did, maybe it was the experimental
Anonymous888
Yes O did.
Longest3WeeksEver
@542 - I have no idea. Maybe late cancellation of score after you get it or convince them to waive registration fees to take it again if it impacted your score? Worth a shot, lol
Anonymous97
So, if it was the section with the breweries, you're in luck! That was experimental.
Anonymous888
It was that section.
Anonymous97
Good for you, then. I think a lot of people bombed that experimental section.
Anonymous828
I had 3 logical reasoning sections, and everyone's saying that the one with 25 questions was real, but I found it so difficult. So we're the other LRs 26 questions? I can't remember
Longest3WeeksEver
the exp LG seems to have kicked everyone's b**t who had it; so far everyone I've seen who had it, including me, just tanked it
Anonymous888
Well I hope not to have to retake in September. This was my first time.
Anonymous888
It's going to be a long three weeks.
Anonymous542
One LR was 25 and one was 26 I believe
Anonymous802
anon 828 do you remember any of the questions you had on the difficult section?
Anonymous716
@802 I don't remember if it had that question but it definitely didn't have the chimps
Anonymous802
my last lr had a question at the end about this nuclear power plant and different elements-- an inference question
Anonymous808
I'm curious about what scores people think they got.
Anonymous828
Anon 802 no I don't remember :/ can anyone help narrow down the experimental LR section?
Anonymous844
Sounds like the last LR section for those who had 3 was definitely real.
Longest3WeeksEver
I have no clue what I think I got but I know what Ihope I got, lol
Anonymous802
I'm trying to figure out the experimental section too anon 828
Anonymous828
If anyone remembers the questions from the experimental LR let us know!
Anonymous959
First of two LG sections was a slaughter
Anonymous959
Rest seemed okay except for some not straight forward RC
Anonymous808
did the experimental LG hurt anyone later in the test because of a break of confidence, etc.?
Anonymous979
Yea I think I will take it again in September. I didn't study that much for RC and I had 2 of those that absolutely killed me
Longest3WeeksEver
@959...I've never felt so vindicated having struggled so hard with something as that section and seeing everyone else did too
Anonymous808
I've taken about 12 preptests and other RC practice as well...still had some trouble with it
Anonymous808
sounds like everyone else did though too wink
Anonymous959
Sure 808
Longest3WeeksEver
@808 - I think I did the opposite, when I realized there was another LG and I got through the 1st one I just prayed that meant the first one was exp
Anonymous844
Can anyone with 3 LRs confirm if the question about CEOs writing management books was in the LR sec that was 3rd?
Anonymous802
How many questions did your third section have?
Anonymous844
all I know for sure is that one had 26 and one had 25 but I can't remember which ones were which. I believe the first one had 26 and I know the last one had 25 but idk how many were in the 3rd
Anonymous715
Mouse study about lights or the one about land
Anonymous802
Some other people said that the CEO writing management one was real
Anonymous802
But I'm not sure about order
Anonymous662
I had the CEO question.
Anonymous715
anyone know w 2 LRs have a study about lights and mice or a landlord &tenants
Longest3WeeksEver
doesn't sounds familiar
Anonymous1020
Vampire....CEO was real
Anonymous1018
Answer to the Europe / fire LR question? That it was inhabited 400,000 yrs ago?
Anonymous844
Yeah, but I can't remember which LR sec that CEO ? was
Anonymous1020
yep there were people 400000years ago, they dont manage fire, they survived
Anonymous802
Was the Europe/fire one in the LR section with 26 questions?
Anonymous542
Don't discuss answers
Anonymous844
i feel like all the ?s that we've confirmed are real were all in one section lol.
Anonymous844
for Lr
Anonymous1018
Ok my b
Anonymous715
@anony814 my 2nd LR section /3rd section overall was 26 Qs and I think it was the one with chimps
Anonymous1020
Vampire section was real LR Ceo was also the real LR
Anonymous546
So landlords, tenants, and energy efficiency question was in experimental LR?
Anonymous844
did you have 3 LRs @anon715?
Anonymous802
Anon 715 did you have three LR sections-- was your last logical reasoning section the fifth one and did it have the nuclear power plant/heavy element question at the end?
Anonymous1020
I remember I had Mosquitos and substance question in my lr
Anonymous97
No. That question was real, 546
Anonymous1020
yes, it was real
Anonymous485
What do you think the curve will be? I thought lg was hard
Anonymous97
Did you have two logic game sections, 485?
Anonymous485
no just one
Anonymous1072
They curve?
Anonymous485
Well not a real curve, but the adjustment that may occur
Anonymous1072
They just omit a few questions that a great majority got wrong or what?
Anonymous485
yeah it's something like that
Anonymous485
I'm wondering what if you got right what everyone got wrong
Anonymous485
how does that work?
Anonymous888
I had 2 LG. I think LG was the most difficult.
Anonymous715
@anon802 yeah I had three and my last one was something about pending something until further investigation is that that one??
Longest3WeeksEver
they have some way they multiply based on how people do but they don't toss any
Longest3WeeksEver
that's why some tests a 64 can be a 152 on one test but a 153 or 154 on another
Longest3WeeksEver
LG is usually my hardest; I always forget to draw a second or third diagram when it's appropriate so I waste time working more out than I should
Anonymous866
Are the mods/whomever still trying to confirm LR questions? I had both real LRs and can probably remember a few questions if prompted.
Anonymous844
Not 100% sure but it sounds like maybe the 2nd and 3rd LR secs (3 and 5 overall) were real. Anyone think otherwise?
Anonymous844
*for those that had 3
Anonymous802
Anon 715 I can't remember that specific question. My last section had another question about chlorophyll I believe
Anonymous278
That was real, that was the second LR
Anonymous278
The first LR had a question about breathing animals in a womb?
Anonymous278
I can't recall the exact question
Anonymous844
Can anyone remember if the thin skin marsupial ? was in their 1st or second LR?
Anonymous1095
Yes thin skin womb
Anonymous802
Definitely not first for me
Anonymous802
I had three logical reasoning sections and the thin skin one was either my 3rd section or 5th section overall
Anonymous844
ugh too many LR secs to remember where ?s were located lol
Anonymous802
Yeah I agree anon 844
Anonymous802
I just really want to figure out the experimental one because I did terribly on one of the logical reasoning sections
Anonymous802
But I can't remember any of the questions
AnxiouslyAwaiting
@Anonymous802: Unfortunately you can't figure it out by section number
Anonymous715
Heavy fabric question real???
Longest3WeeksEver
715 - yes
Anonymous1095
Heavy fabric yes real
Anonymous715
f**k I'm f**ked then
Anonymous844
@anon715 think that was in the last section so probably
AnxiouslyAwaiting
Oh nice, I refreshed the browser and now you can customize your username
Anonymous802
Was the heavy fabric one in the same section as the nuclear/heavy elements one?
Anonymous844
how about darker coffee vs light coffee... real?
Anonymous866
844 that was real
Longest3WeeksEver
yeah, that was real
Anonymous814
Does anyone know a question from the experimental LR?
Anonymous844
Great. Now if only I could remember which sec that was in.....
Joshua Craven
Hey guys, Josh Craven here
Joshua Craven
I left for a while
Joshua Craven
I'd like to update the list of LR questions below
Joshua Craven
so I'm seeing
Joshua Craven
Coffee/Dark/Light = Real
Joshua Craven
Heavy Fabric = Real
Anonymous715
The experimental one was the one with the parallel
Anonymous715
kale *
Anonymous802
Kale?
Longest3WeeksEver
swamp - real
Anonymous866
I think someone was asking about landlords/tenants/electricity before and that one was real
Longest3WeeksEver
(energy?)plant & pipelines - real
Anonymous546
You mean the fad diets?
Anonymous715
the parallel q about kale I'm pretty sure was on experimental section and if I remmeber correctly maybe something w marine animals? Yeah 546 that is prob it I am
Anonymous715
brain dead
Anonymous866
715 the fad diets was a real question though
Anonymous866
I admit I don't remember anything about kale, but I had a question about fad diets/nutrition
Anonymous546
Yeah I remember the marine mammals extinction paradox problem
Anonymous715
i swear there was something to do with kale and another to do with fiber but I could be wrong
AnxiouslyAwaiting
Fad Diets = Real
AnxiouslyAwaiting
is that correct?
Anonymous866
Yes, AnxiouslyAwaiting
Longest3WeeksEver
Josh - there's a good number of additional ones up a ways
Anonymous715
i think kale was just an option in a choice for a Q but it stuck in my head
Anonymous959
There was a weird salt one
Anonymous844
I think the marine mammal ? was on the second LR (3rd overall)?
Longest3WeeksEver
I don't think the kale was real; I don't seem to recall it on either of mine
Anonymous866
Also, seconding both of Longest3WeeksEver's questions being real (swamp and plant/pipelines)
Anonymous959
yeah I don't recall kale too
Longest3WeeksEver
I don't recognize a marine mammal either
Anonymous844
i had 3 LRs and don't remember anything about kale tho goatse
Anonymous546
Sounds like marine mammal might have been in experimental LR
Tasha
Im applying to cuny law and i dont know If i hit 150 can people get in with low lsat score
Anonymous866
844 people could have had different experimental LR sections
Joshua Craven
Marsupials/Mammals/Mom's Pouches <--- can we confirm that one?
Longest3WeeksEver
I'm looking at Iowa and their average is 161
Anonymous866
Yes to the marsupials question
Anonymous959
yes josh
Longest3WeeksEver
yes; the mom's pouch was real
Anonymous959
Painful few weeks for those scores huh...
Joshua Craven
Reviewers/Critics
Anonymous959
sounds real
Anonymous866
*If it was about movie reviewers/critics, that is
Anonymous959
oh was that the one asking what the conclusion was?
Anonymous959
weird question
Anonymous715
What about the judge /editor/newspaper revealing the truth one
Anonymous844
Yeah that one slowed me down quite a bit
Longest3WeeksEver
9529- yeah
Joshua Craven
nutrients/diet effectiveness <-- Real?
Anonymous866
Yes to 715 and to Josh
Anonymous959
easy to confirm when you had the terrible LG
Anonymous1147
Can we talk more about RC??? Anyone have hominids and environment passage?
Anonymous1147
What was the judge research passage about?
Anonymous866
Bit of a tangent, but were there different experimental LG sections? I had two LG sections but I didn't have the breweries/flowers/kittens&puppies questions and I think my experimental section might've been a bit easier because of that
Longest3WeeksEver
1147 - Real RC Passages Jazz Psychology/Inferences Judge/Research Dowsing
Anonymous959
You sure you didn't have the brewery one?
Anonymous959
with the 9 different beers?
Longest3WeeksEver
866 - I had the breweries but I didn't have kittens or puppies
Anonymous959
Although I don't remember the kittens either
Anonymous866
959 I feel like I would've remembered it with how much people are talking about it - I only remember the waiters/intermissions and the supervisors question
Anonymous959
oh i don't remember the waiter question either hrrrm
Longest3WeeksEver
and I don't recall anything about waiters
Anonymous866
Interesting, I guess there were a bunch of different combinations then
Longest3WeeksEver
though aside from the breweries, I'm not sure what else was on it but I don't think it was any of those
Anonymous1164
I had two LG but no breweries question on experimental (but yes kittens/puppies question). I didn't think either LG was difficult so they definitely had multiple experimental lgs
Anonymous1207
Was the one about newspapers and objectivity real?
Anonymous1164
Yes newspapers and objectivity was real
Tasha
I think i had that one in my lAst LR
Tasha
it was section 5
Anonymous866
Yep newspapers/objectivity was real
Tasha
Did anyone have three LRs was the last one in section five real
Anonymous844
the last LR sec for people that had 3 in confirmed real I think.
Tasha
I bombed the first one.
Anonymous1164
The sections aren't in the same order for everyone
Tasha
O
Anonymous1207
I had LR RC LR LG LR, and I know for certain that the last one was real but I can't remember what the other ones even had in them
Anonymous802
Anon 908-- Did your section five have the question about the nuclear/heavy element stuff?
Tasha
The first one had a question about pulsars was that real
Longest3WeeksEver
1164 - you're lucky, the whole section with breweries was a nightmare. Like, "omg should I just leave now because I'm SOL" kind of nightmare
Anonymous844
oh well I had 1/3/5 as LR, 2 was RC, and 4 was LG
Anonymous1203
If you had LR RC LR LG LR most likely the first is experimental
Longest3WeeksEver
yeah, Puslars was real
Tasha
Omg i hope so
Anonymous1203
I bombed that first one tho lol
Longest3WeeksEver
side note - this site is amazing, lol.
Tasha
Was that in section 1
Tasha
Pulsars
Anonymous844
@802 My sec 5 had the nuclear ?
Longest3WeeksEver
out of my 2,I believe so
Anonymous1233
RC Tectonic plates seismic activity was experimental?
Anonymous1203
Yes I didn't have that and I had one RC
Longest3WeeksEver
1233 - yes
Anonymous802
Anon 844 my section five had the nuclear too-- I'm trying to figure out if my first section or third section was the experimental LR
Tasha
I think my first section had 26 questions
Anonymous866
Ugh I would've traded any RC passage for the psychologist one
Anonymous1245
My 1 or third section was experimental!
Anonymous1203
The first LR had 26, Second LR Had 26 and third had 25
Tasha
I think the 26 question was real
Anonymous1245
This test was great!
Anonymous1203
Chimps question was which LR?
Tasha
That one was in the first one
Tasha
The games one i did really well on
Anonymous844
its confirmed there was a 26 and 25 LR, so one of the 26 has to be exp
Anonymous1245
The first set of questions
Anonymous844
@anon908 are you sure chimps was in the 1st set?
Anonymous1249
Overall test seemed in line/easier than the last ten PTs.
Anonymous1203
I thought it was in the 2nd or 3rd LR
Anonymous662
I think I had chimps in my 2nd or 3rd set.
Anonymous1245
Who thought this test was great?
Fml
Who had RC/LR/RC/LR/LG?
Anonymous844
i was thinking it was in the 2nd for me
Anonymous1203
Yeah one of those
Anonymous1245
I had that combo!
Fml
Did you have one passage about hominids?
Tasha
I didnt. I had LR RC LR LG LR
Fml
(That was the expiremental)
Anonymous1203
i had LR RC LR LG LR as well
Tasha
But i dunno which was exp in my set
Anonymous1245
Yes, I did. Th I second set of passages.
Fml
What?
Anonymous1245
I had the hominids passage, but it was placed on the second set of reading comp passages! You
Anonymous844
i had LR RC LR LG LR
Fml
Was the psychology one (real) the first or third section?
Anonymous1233
Fml- I had that order and for me the second RC was experimental
Tasha
Pysch was real
Anonymous1245
I think they psychology one was real!
Anonymous1233
Psychology was section 1 and real
Anonymous802
For everyone who had the three logical reasoning sections, did one section seem particularly harder?
Tasha
The first one killed me
Anonymous844
firsr one for me but idk if that was just my nerves lol
Joshua Craven
@Longest3WeeksEver: "side note - this site is amazing, lol." <-- Thanks! I'm glad you like it! I'm enjoying this chat feature. I'm going to have to try and introduce more interactivity to the site, because this is nice.
Fml
Fmmmmmlllll I was hoping it was the first cause I did so bad right when I sat down
Anonymous802
For me the first was really bad
Tasha
Yea me too
Anonymous1245
FML, me too!
Tasha
Missed like five questions
Anonymous802
I couldn't finish in time
Anonymous1245
The second set of rc were great.
Tasha
I dont want to retake this exam
Anonymous1245
Me either 1245.
Anonymous802
I don't either
Anonymous1245
rich in content.
Tasha
I feel like kaplan didnt do s**t
Longest3WeeksEver
Josh - I think a lot of people get some extra sleep knowing
Anonymous1245
FML...
Anonymous1245
How do you think you did?
Longest3WeeksEver
I definitely don't want to take it again either
Anonymous1245
It seems we had the same exam.
Tasha
I feel like i got in the high 140s
Anonymous1245
The LG section was easy!
Anonymous1281
I didn't study at all. It was my first time and I wanted to see what it was as like. Probably screwed myself
Tasha
My last exam wAs 145 and i tested around 157 to 150
Anonymous1245
Thank God I only had one LG section.
Tasha
During my pts but my first lsat exam was 145
Anonymous715
I think I know which one of mine was not real if the Pluto one wasn't real???
Longest3WeeksEver
this was my first; my last pts were 160/157
Anonymous1245
Me too!
Tasha
My school needs like a 151
Anonymous844
josh- do you think law school will think of an applicant negatively if they've taken the lsat more than once? Most take top score but then can see all yours scores technically, correct?
Tasha
They dont really care
Joshua Craven
@Anonymous844: Yes, they can see all of your scores. But they only really care about your best score.
Anonymous1201
/?was the nuclear plan in the 25 or 26 LR section? I am drawing a blank
Longest3WeeksEver
My first choice I need a 161 :/
Anonymous715
1201- 25
Anonymous1201
thanks 715
Joshua Craven
That just came out today
Anonymous844
so many spelling/grammar errors in that ? Sorry lol but thank you!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Who had rc/lr/rc/lr/lg?
Joshua Craven
applicants with 165+ LSAT scores are becoming more and more rare... and law schools want to keep their LSAT stats up
Aspiring NYU Law Student
so is a 165 not possible?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I was testing at 160-163....
Joshua Craven
so, since they only report your best score.. they really only care about that score.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Time constraints are crazy!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Would any of you take the LSAT more than 3 times?
Joshua Craven
well, it isn't that fewer people are getting 165+ on the exam
Tasha
I dont want to get into law school next year when im 25 :/
Joshua Craven
but fewer of those people are choosing to go to law school, for one reason or another
Aspiring NYU Law Student
those that have a 165+?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I heard Harvard Law will take the GRE now.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
GRE or LSAT?! Hmmmm...
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Also, LSAC came out with a statement...
Aspiring NYU Law Student
No more constraints
Joshua Craven
Correct
Aspiring NYU Law Student
on the amount of times you take the LSAT
Joshua Craven
You can take the LSAT as many times as you want now
Joshua Craven
and they are also moving from 4 tests per year to 6 tests per year
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I spoke to a LSAC rep about it...
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Were you aware of this new update?
Longest3WeeksEver
don't feel bad, I'm 36 lololol
Tasha
Maybe its not so bad then
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Tasha, you are still very young. God will allow you to go to law school when the time is right. Besides, you really want to achieve your highest score.
Anonymous844
i would probably take it more than 3 times if I don't get where I want to be on my first 3. I am so bad at timed tests under pressure so even though I was finishing all questions and scoring 160+ on PTs, I didn't finish any of the section completely on the actual LSAT today
Longest3WeeksEver
I'm curious if the people who would score 165+ really aren't taking it/applying to law school or if the tests are just actually getting that much more difficult?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
You want to show law schools that you are a competitive applicant, and that your talents, abilities, and capabilities have been truly measured through this exam.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Well, not truly measured.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
But, with a score that you are content with, and that will allow you to be admitted to your dream/top law school, that will be sufficient.
Tasha
How are the seminars on this website do they help alot
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I rather achieve the highest score possible, and sacrifice time, instead of applying with a low score, and getting into any law school.
Anonymous662
Did anyone use Kaplan to study?
Anonymous1292
I had an experimental LR section, and the first LR killed me. It had 25 questions, but people are saying that the LR experimental had 26 for sure. Is that true?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
No, I didn't.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I used the LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Case briefs.com free LSAT prep.
Joshua Craven
@Longest3WeeksEver: Your LSAT score is scaled to the test, so approximately 91.5% of test takers will get a 165+ on any given test.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Basically, I prepared my own self study material using these these two LSAT prep books/videos.
Anonymous844
I used LSAT trainer and I loved it! Was using power score before but switched completely once I started reading his book. Maybe I should had studied both :/
Aspiring NYU Law Student
LSAT Trainer is great.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Also, I bought the LSAC prep test books.
Anonymous844
It is great. He explains everything so clearly.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I also purchased the previous administered LSAT exams from December 2014-December 2016. (I used these as my test day simulations).
Anonymous662
Thanks guys, I'm looking for other options for the test in September
Aspiring NYU Law Student
He also has a website.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim (purchase online).
Anonymous844
Oh dang, I should have looked into that...
Aspiring NYU Law Student
LSAC preptest textbooks.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Also, FREE LSAT prep course on case briefs.com
Joshua Craven
http://lawschooli.com/lsat-prep-books-self-study/ <-- That article talks about what books I used
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Anonymous 844-TRUST ME, you will be fine with both of these prep materials.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I also urge you to look into lawschooli.com as well.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
They provide information, instructional, and exceptional ways of conquering the LSAT.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Does anyone believe this test was hard?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Besides the time constraints...
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I've taken the LSAT once before, and it was pretty hard.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I think this one was fair.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
It would've been excellent if I studied more under time constraints.
Anonymous662
Same. That one LR section was killer but everything else was okay. I'm terrible at reading comp though so I thought that was hard as well
Tasha
I didnt like it
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I'm also bad at reading comp.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
It's not that were bad, its that the content is boring, dry, and draining to read.
Tasha
I just didnt feel confident. I wish there was a prep course that helps with test anxiety and lsat
Anonymous662
I just can't read it fast enough there's always one passage I have to guess on.
Anonymous844
Same, NYU! I thought LGs were abnormally easy but getting stuck on a few ?s means I didn't get a chance at "solving" all ?s. Same for the RC sec
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Yes, 844! I think we were going through the same emotions.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
For reading comp, they always try to make the questions very complex.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
They passages are just dry, and uninteresting.
Anonymous1233
My proctors were incompetent. First section we were given 30 minutes then when we were about to start section 2 one proctor looked over to the other one and said, "Oh, was I supposed to give them 35 minutes for section 1?"
Anonymous1341
Can anyone with only 2 LR confirm if they remember an LR flaw question reguarding "politiicians and whether a proposal inhibiting investing should be considered"
Anonymous844
def need to practice more times PTs and make sure I understand I'll be under more pressure on test day.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Also, they try to add a lot of information that will misguide the reader.
Isvk
Congrats to everyone who took the LSAT today !! Best wishes to all & I hope everyone killed it !! Taking mine for the first time in September & im already terrified for it !!
Anonymous844
i agree! The RCs were harder than I expected tbh. Caught me off guard quite a bit.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Yes, me too 844!
Joshua Craven
@Anonymous1233: Wow. that's awful. did they give you the 5 minutes back?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
The LR sections were great.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Also, the LG was perfect!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
What do you think 844?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I got stuck on the first game, but finished the remaining three successfully.
Anonymous1233
Josh - Yes, but after I had already spent the last few minutes freaking out and not reading the RC passage well
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Anonymous 1233, that happened to me as well.
Anonymous844
i thought LG was much easier than expected and, for the most part the LRs also. But like I have mentioned, I didn't finish some ?s in all questions due to running out of time :/
Anonymous662
1341 I had that politicians question!
Anonymous844
*in all sections, not questions
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Yes, 844! I went through the same as well.
Anonymous1341
662 did you only have 2 LR's?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I think we have to work harder with our time.
Anonymous844
Agree! I wish you good luck if you take it again!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Being timed is no fun, but it's part of the experience.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
You too, 844! All the best to you.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Do you think that you will be taking it again?
Tasha
Maybe
Aspiring NYU Law Student
This was my second time.
Anonymous662
Oh, I had 3 LRs.
Tasha
I took two tests and freaked out in one of them
Anonymous1281
1341 I hat that question
Tasha
This is my third try at the lsat
Anonymous662
I'm taking it again for sure. Gotta work on my time!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Tasha, what were your scores?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
The first two times?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
If I may ask.
Anonymous1341
1281 did you only have 2 LR's
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I got a 146 the first time.
Anonymous1347
I had 2 LGs and I think I remember something about mayors taking bribes but not politicians being investigated
Tasha
My score was 145 at the lAst one but didnt study much
Anonymous844
I believe so. Since I know how many ?s I didn't get a chance at in each section, it gives me somewhat of an estimate of where I think my score will be (even tho I could have potentially guessed correctly). But I know I can do better if I practice more. I took 3 timed PTs and didn't finish the first 2 completely but finished the last one with a 162. So I know I can do it if I keep at it!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Wow, not bad. I believe that with study, you can increase it by at least 10 points.
Tasha
I studied more this time but I think i only went up about three points
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Where you planning to go to law school?
Tasha
I feel like i need a tutor or something
Aspiring NYU Law Student
You should see if taking the LSAT a fourth time would be convenient.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Please take into account if you will increase your score substantially.
Tasha
I want to apply to cuny school of law only lol
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Once again, lawschooli LSAT prep is great!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I think they have a median of a 152 or so...
Anonymous1341
1281 did you only have 2 LR's?
Tasha
ive seen ppl with a 146 get in
Aspiring NYU Law Student
That's great!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
My heart is set on NYU...
Tasha
Hopefully i get in.. the only place i can afford lol
Aspiring NYU Law Student
All the best to you, Tasha!
Tasha
Thank you
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I have a GPA of 3.82 from Cornell, but my latest LSAT of 146 won't do anything.
Tasha
Tho im applied late if i cant get in il just like get a tutor probably...
Aspiring NYU Law Student
For the LSAT?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Look into Lawschooli!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
They have great study schedules.
Tasha
I have like a 3.62 gpa
Aspiring NYU Law Student
You can also create your own, and manage it according to your time, and disposability.
Tasha
Wat is your pt score?
Tasha
I feel like I could use a study buddy too!
Anonymous1219
My order was: RC, LR, LG, LR, LG :-/
Tasha
I feel like I need someone to help motiviate me to study harder
Aspiring NYU Law Student
* I meant, according to your time and schedule.
Tasha
Yea
Aspiring NYU Law Student
My practice score was a 158-160.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
This past Saturday I scored a 165 on the September 2016 exam.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Although, I didn't time myself.
Tasha
I only did 4 section pts
Tasha
I think i made a mistake doing that
Aspiring NYU Law Student
On Sunday, I took the December 2016 LSAT exam, and scored a 159.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Under time conditions.
Tasha
Whats the best way to pt?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Tasha are you in the New York area>
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Look into LSAT Focus Approach program.
Anonymous1364
Josh Cravens, do 91.5% of people actually get above a 165 on any given test or was that a typo
Tasha
Yea
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Peter Germanely teaches it.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Peter Germanely.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Peter Gormanly
Tasha
I live in queens
Aspiring NYU Law Student
He teaches the course in Pace Law,
Aspiring NYU Law Student
and Albany Law
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I think Touro or Pace would be great for you!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
He is great!!!!
Tasha
Oh pace thats like in white plains lol
Aspiring NYU Law Student
He teaches the LSAT by learning IRAC. ISSUE, RULE, ANALYSIS, and CONCLUSION.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Yes, white plains!
Tasha
Does he have online classes?
Joshua Craven & Evan Jones
that means 91.5 is the top, so people getting a 165 perform better than 91.5% of people
Tasha
Im in queens
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Great, Tasha!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
All the best you you!
Joshua Craven & Evan Jones
like a 161 is the 83% so they do better than 83% and 17% perform better than they do.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I have a question for everyone.
Tasha
Yea
Aspiring NYU Law Student
For those scoring 165+, how do they do it under time conditions?
Joshua Craven & Evan Jones
You just need to have excellent funimentals
Anonymous1364
So 8.5% of people should get on any given test a 165 +
Joshua Craven & Evan Jones
By this, I mean you need to know how to properly execute each question type quickly.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Excellent. Well, I have tried to learn how to read, reason, and have a strong sense of mental discipline.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Is that enough
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I did very on LG, thank God!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
and Logical reasoning!
Joshua Craven & Evan Jones
Can you write out how to do each question type without thinking about it.... so for example tell me right now how to solve a Necessary Assumption Question. By this I mean what is the process.
Anonymous1341
When you know each question type and can exture upon them it cuts down on time because trail answered do not look as attractive thus saviung time
Joshua Craven & Evan Jones
165+ students can do that easily without much processing for all questions types.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
First, for a Necessary assumption question you must note that the answer choice must be true, because the conclusion is true.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
That is my quickest way of tackling these questions.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Make sure to look at key words. Such as required, dependes, necessary...
Joshua Craven & Evan Jones
Do you do the negation test to confirm your answer choice?
Joshua Craven
@Anonymous1341: well said
Aspiring NYU Law Student
That is how I confirm my answer.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
The negation test will allow you to destroy the argument
Joshua Craven & Evan Jones
Hey Josh! Fun Tool!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
well, the conclusion!
Joshua Craven
@Joshua Craven & Evan Jones: is that you Steph?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Is that question for me?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
My name is Frank.
Anonymous1341
Sorry let me remove typos;
Joshua Craven
@Anonymous1341: no worries, I understand what you mean. Very true
Joshua Craven
@Aspiring NYU Law Student: hi frank
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Hello, Mr. Craven!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Did I do a great job by describing a Necessary Assumption!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I can answer these in less than a minute.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Due to that skill.
Anonymous1341
What I meant to say was: When you know each question type and can execute upon them it cuts down on time because trap answers do not look as attractive thus saving time.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
That is correct, 1341.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I made it to question 22 before they called out the five minute warning. This was the case for both of my logical reasoning portions.
Anonymous1341
Josh/Evan Would you be able to ask around and confirm if anyone with only 2 LR's can remember a LR flaw question reguarding "politiicians and whether a proposal inhibiting investing should be considered"
Anonymous1341
Not sure if you have a page to post potential LR question subject matter awaiting confirmation
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I had that question appear.
Anonymous1341
Did you only have 2 LR's?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
2 RC, 2 LR, and 1 LG.
Anonymous1341
Great well Josh/Evan if a few other can confirm that question we may be able to add it to your list below.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Yes, it was a flaw question.
Joshua Craven & Evan Jones
If you only had 2 LRs then you had the real LRs
Aspiring NYU Law Student
That is correct Josh.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
It was not experimental.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Mr. Craven, did I do well on my explanation?
Joshua Craven & Evan Jones
Please do not discuss specific question types smile We need to be careful what is shared.
Joshua Craven & Evan Jones
Yes, just want to make sure, you can do that in a few seconds to improve into the 165s and above
Anonymous1341
Yeah I had 3 and was asking to see if that was part of the real LR. Thank you! Also duly noted mums the word.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
That is fine!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Thank you, Mr. Craven!
Anonymous1203
If I want to take my second lsat in December to give myself some more study time do you think I'll be good for getting into school fall 2018 ?
Anonymous802
Does anyone who had two logical reasoning questions remember if they had a question about a mayor and contractor and bribes?
Anonymous802
*sections
Anonymous1341
802 you will see the question you are asking about has already been confirmed as real below
Anonymous1203
802 what section was that on for you?
Anonymous802
I don't see the mayor question below 1341
Anonymous802
I think it was in my first section
Anonymous1347
I had 2 LRs and that was one of the questions!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
802, you will be more than fine.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I know some people that have taken the February LSAT, and still get in that same year.
Anonymous1203
Awesome I'm trying to get into Rutgers Newark literally not shooting for the starts but I am really don't know exactly how much I need to get on my lsat I've read like 155-158 will do it.. was PTing 159/160s but this is my first lsat and I feel like I bombed :/
Aspiring NYU Law Student
For example, my friend had a 3.7 from Yale, and took the LSAT twice in June 2015 and February 2016, She scored a 154 and increased it to a 159 by February.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
She got into Georgetown Law.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Rutgers is great!
Anonymous1203
Jesus thanks to her GPA and prior school I'm sure lol that's great tho
Aspiring NYU Law Student
In the top 100!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Yes, I think that helped.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I went to a SUNY School here in New York.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Then transferred to Cornell.
Anonymous1203
I'm just worried about the experimental. I forgot the questions already lol I had 3 LRs
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I've kept my GPA high, but praying to God that this LSAT score will be enough to get me in Cornell or NYU
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Why are you worried about the experimental?
Anonymous1203
Yeah my GPA isn't that good, 3.1 :/
Aspiring NYU Law Student
It's not scored.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
1203, where do you want to go to law school?
Anonymous1203
Just worried about which one it was, I want to make sure bombed the right one lol and Rutgers Newark
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Have you looked into NY Law schools.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Syracuse, Albany, or even in the city.
Anonymous1203
NY law school maybe
Aspiring NYU Law Student
3.1 isn't that bad.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
At least you crossed over the 3.0 scale. Others below, have to work hard on the LSAT to make up for that GPA.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
NYLS in New York is great.
Anonymous1203
Might be ideal. I live in fort lee right over the GWB
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Can I ask everyone a question?
Anonymous1203
Shoot !
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I'm not sure if this happens to me only, but has anyone noticed that once the test begins, or mind tends to tense up, therefore, diminishing the capacity to fully comprehend what the text is saying. For example, this happened to me in the RC passage, but I directed my focus to the LSAT, and concentrated on the rest of the exam.
Anonymous1203
Absolutely was my problem today
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I was very excited to commence the exam, but as soon as I saw the RC, my mind began to tense up, and I couldn't focus or understand the passage. Later, I was have a difficulty grasping the main points, and authors viewpoint/argument.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Also, time constraints don't help.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I felt pressured to read quicker, but I still wasn't grasping anything.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I think I have to work on time constraints, and anxiety.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Although, I hope this is the last time I have to take this exam.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Also, when this type of experience occurs, I tend to want to read the passage again to comprehend it. Not realizing that time is being wasted by doing that.
Anonymous1203
I'm exactly the same
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Then, the proctor calls out the infamous 5 minute warning, and I felt that I still didn't get anything accomplished.
Anonymous1203
I'm going to take a month off of studying, pick it up in July or early august and study until the December exam anyone live in the NJ NY metro area and want to hang and study this summer ?
Anonymous1529
Gre is much easier! All law schools should accept it
Anonymous1529
save us a lot of stress and money
Anonymous1529
gre books you can borrow from Libs anywhere
Aspiring NYU Law Student
What does the GRE entail?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I live in upstate NY 1203.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I think if we start in July we will be in good shape for the December exam.
Anonymous1529
Things you should of learned through high school and early college
Aspiring NYU Law Student
5 month preparation.
Anonymous1529
You really just need to refresh yourself
Anonymous1203
Yeah I definitely need a breather lol
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Harvard Law is now accepting GRE.
Anonymous1529
Plus it's offered everyday and you get your score instantly
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Me too, 1203.
Anonymous1529
And Stanford and Arizona
Anonymous1203
Wow LSAC is outdated eh?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Are there restrictions on the amount of times you can take the exam?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Stanford as well?
Anonymous1292
When do you think someone should start studying again for the September exam
Aspiring NYU Law Student
It gives you a good three months.
Anonymous1292
i was going to take a two week break
Anonymous1529
I think they are but it's pretty generous
Anonymous1292
I started studying for June in march
Anonymous1529
They offer it three different times a day 6 days a week
Aspiring NYU Law Student
May I give you an advice>?
Anonymous1529
How many questions can you get wrong you think for this June test to get a 160
Aspiring NYU Law Student
If you start now, you will only have to focus on the areas where you are weak. For example, work on strengthening your skills on the LG section. Also, TIME YOURSELF!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
This is vital.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
If you wait, then you have to refresh yourself on the whole material.
Anonymous1341
@aspring NYU do you remember the newspaper/reveal the truth question in LR
Anonymous1292
Yes i agree! Thank you for that. I just wanted to take a short break so I wouldnt burn out
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Hmm..not necessarily.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
You should take a short break, but I wouldn't recommend 2 weeks.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I would do 1 week, and get back to studying.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Then when September gets closer, you can losen up a bit, but focus only on taking time pt's.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Remember, under timed conditions
Aspiring NYU Law Student
this is essential for LSAT success.
Anonymous1536
what did everyone think of LG??? hard or easy?? I thought challenging.....
Anonymous1203
I always time myself as well the 7Sage proctor.
Anonymous1341
Good to know. I had 3 LR and believe that question may have been on the experimental given the other questions listed as real
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I had 2, they were easy!
Anonymous1341
so it may be listed as real erroneously
Anonymous1536
@aspiring NYU Law student do you like/are you good at LG's usually?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Excellent, 1203!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I would like to share a secret with you all!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I have actually mastered the LG these past three months!
Anonymous1203
please do
Aspiring NYU Law Student
There was a sense of discovery.
Anonymous1536
please share I suck at LGs
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I am actually very good at them now!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I actually LOVE them1
Anonymous1203
You're the Head of LSAC and are giving us a retake with a time extension!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Is this true?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
1536, you must read the LG section clearly.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
It is essential that you notate the constraints CORRECTLY.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Then, you must make your inferences and deductions.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Move on to the questions.
Anonymous1536
LOL i understand the steps I just am not fast enough at deductions
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Also, if you can make various diagrams from the constraints given, do so. For example, if a questions states that you have six slots, and G can go in either 1 or 7, then make two diagrams.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
G can be in either 1 or 7.
Anonymous1203
Usually for must be trues I make a couple of different disagrees especially if I can split up the board and look for constants and try to move those around
Anonymous1203
Diagrams *
Aspiring NYU Law Student
For that same scenario, if M is before T, we know that M can't bet 6th
Anonymous1570
Anonymous1203 16 min. ago Im in nyc area
Aspiring NYU Law Student
and T can't be first.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Does that make sense?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
these are the deductions you have to make
Anonymous1570
i wouldn't mind studying this summer
Anonymous1203
@Anonymous1570: email me jonkhan094@gmail.com
Aspiring NYU Law Student
For some constraints this won't be the case
Anonymous1570
i would love to have a study group
Anonymous1203
I definitely wanna put something together
Anonymous1570
yea thats a great idea!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Are my tips assisting anyone?
Anonymous1570
any one email me tasidasi@aol.com
Anonymous1203
They are
Anonymous1570
if they want to start a study group
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Thanks, 1203!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
That is how to master the LG. Also, be careful with the language used!
Anonymous1529
How many right would I need for 160 for today's test ?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I do not like to in/out games because they can get tricky, but you have to be very careful with language.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I can tell you..
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I think around 78-80...
Aspiring NYU Law Student
a total raw score of 80
Anonymous1529
Oh geez
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I wish you all the best 1529!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
You can do it!
Anonymous1529
Is there something like reductions impact that score
Aspiring NYU Law Student
If you answered 20 right on each of the four scored sections, you will be in good shape.
Anonymous1529
Thank you aspiring
Aspiring NYU Law Student
What do you mean by reductions?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
You're welcome, 1529!
Anonymous1529
Okay thank you!
Anonymous1529
Well based on how everyone else did
Anonymous1529
Doesn't the score vary depending on that?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Well, if you guess that won't hinder your score, but may increase your chances of getting some right. If you leave any answer choice wrong then you are throwing free points away (of course, by guessing on them).
Aspiring NYU Law Student
For the LSAT, you have a raw score and a percentage compared to everyone else.
Anonymous1435
Fossil fuel/ emissions reductions influenced by individuals vs govts was in the real section wasn't it?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
For example, if you get 45-40 right, I think its a 140. Which is the 14th percentile.
Anonymous1529
What do schools like at?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I meant 35-40 right.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Schools look at it all.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
For example, your LSAT score will determine your percentile rank.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
If you score a 140 you are at the bottom 14th percentile.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
or 12th percentile, I think.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Does this make sense>
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Does this make sense?
Anonymous1529
Yes it does!
Anonymous1529
Thank you
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Excellent, 1529!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Does anyone else have any questions?
Anonymous1594
Are you just assuming that you need around 80 correct to get a 160? Bc most test have been around 75 questionsncorrect to get a 161
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I didn't have my sheet in front of me.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I was guessing.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I think 80 right would be a 164.
Anonymous1203
80 right is 163 164 ish
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Also, in the 89th percentile.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I think that were are all capable of 165+!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Let's go for it guys!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Any other questions?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Any other questions?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
@Anonymous1203: Thank you!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Where does everyone live?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
We can meet up?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Also, lawschooli has a great program.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
We can use this program to prep.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Also, other successful programs as wel.
Anonymous1203
One more question taking the lsat 3 times looks bad ? Or Is that a myth I heard you have to write a letter explaining yourself as to why you took it 3 times
Aspiring NYU Law Student
@Anonymous1203: Excellent question. Let me explain.
Anonymous1529
Now that you have your sheet
Anonymous1570
yea if everyone could meet up that would be great
Anonymous1529
What would 160 be?
Anonymous1570
i have lsat mastermind
Aspiring NYU Law Student
@Anonymous1203: It all depends where you want to go to law school. I know that various T14 law schools like to see only 1 LSAT scores, but other's are very welcoming of various LSAT scores. For examples, I know about 10 law students that applied to the lower T14, and they all had at least 2 LSAT scores.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
They were still accepted.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Law school usually takes the higher score.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Each law school is different though.
Anonymous1601
anyone that had trouble with LG, try out Nathan Fox's LG book! I have mastered LGs because of that book.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I have a friend that went from a 145 to a 167, and she definitely wrote an LSAT addendum explaining the score differences.
Anonymous1583
definitely got a 170 and above
Aspiring NYU Law Student
@Anonymous1203: Some schools don't care, and just take the higher LSAT score.
Anonymous1203
Will they ask for it post application?
Anonymous1617
hey was the third section the experimental?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
As I stated, each school evaluates multiple LSAT scores differently.
Anonymous1203
Ok thanks anyls
Aspiring NYU Law Student
The LSAT addendum is up to you.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
You have to make that determination if you want to submit one.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
If the law school you are considering for admission is most likely to question your LSAT scores, then you should submit one.
Anonymous1203
1617 everyone is different
Aspiring NYU Law Student
You should also call the Admission's office.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
They will give you a better response for what they are looking for.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Any other questions?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
@Anonymous1570: Is everyone in New York?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Anyone take their exam in Albany, or St. Johns?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
After a long day, I think it's time to rest. I will be on tomorrow if anyone has any questions. Thank you all for you time. Thank you, LawSchooli for this LSAT chat forum!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
God bless everyone. All the best to you all! smile
Anonymous1618
night!
Anonymous1745
I was at a 168 raw score and used LawSchooli's guide and was scoring between 174-177 on practice tests by the end. I felt super prepared and today went a lot better than expected. I prepared so much that I was ready for any question. I think I did around 30 full practice tests. I had time left in every section. I started filling in my answer sheet when they called 5 minutes. Highly recommend
Anonymous1745
LawSchooli for those retaking the exam. Also I liked power score better than the lsat trainer. I think reading the prompt first wastes time because I end up reading it a second time. But I preferred some of their symbols for LG so not a total loss. Power score LG is more comprehensive. Also I was struggling with RC so I used the power score book and improved that section dramatically.
Anonymous1812
Do you recommend pting with five sections?
Anonymous1812
To mimic test day?
Anonymous1837
I did 8 of the tests as 5 sections so I didn't waste too many tests (only 2) as 5th sections. And I did those tests this past week so I saved them for right before the LSAT
Anonymous1837
I think it helped. But if yoU have the stamina for 4 sections with extra time you will have the energy and brain power for a 5th so it depends on how much time you have and how many tests you have
Anonymous1837
To study from. Everyone is different. I am an extremely quick reader. But even I needed to work on reading faster so the more tests I did the better I got. If I had time I would have done even more exams
Anonymous1812
How to get over test anxiety? I have a problem with it
Anonymous1846
I could spend a lot of time reading the rest of this board, or ask to see if anyone can reply immediately. For those that had two RC sections, can you recall something about the experimental RC? I can't remember which one of my sections had the jazz, psychologists one that we agreed is the real one, and I know I did well on one, but not the other.
Anonymous1846
^^^^ I've been reading, and can't find exactly what I'm looking for. For those that had 2 RC, can you remember something other than earthquakes in the experimental section?
Anonymous1778
Does anyone know if the microbeads from facial cleansers was real for LR?
Anonymous1846
I only had 2 LR, and that doesn't ring a bell
Anonymous1778
Hmm ok thanks!
Anonymous1846
Did you have 2 RC? I'm trying to distinguish which was what the experimental had because I can't remember which was which
Anonymous1778
Also @Joshua Craven & Evan Jones: I remember some LR about people seeing themselves running on treadmills, bird's calls in a urban/loud area (I think this was one of the 26 question ones)
Anonymous1778
No I only had one RC!! But scroll down below this chat and Josh put up lists of all we've talked about!
Anonymous1778
@Joshua Craven: also- something about mosquitos in the dark (or something about your arm?), free speech, older generations voting trends (+ years out of school?)
Anonymous1846
Thanks!! @1778, I just guess no one with 2 RC has said others about the the experimental
Anonymous1846
Also, @josh craven, the CEO writer of manual was real
Anonymous1778
yeah! @1846 sorry I can't help more!
Anonymous1778
Wait, was the CEO manual in the section with 25 questions?
Anonymous1909
Brutal.....
Anonymous1846
@1778, it's okay!! But hmm I can't say for sure, but that sounds right because my 26 LR was first and I'm pretty sure the CEO was my 2nd LR
Anonymous1959
1846--- same. Another passage in expiremental was about hominids. It was section 3.
Anonymous1959
It was about how early hominids evolved and how they sat up straight or something
Anonymous1987
There was something about north American cave paintings of a supernova or something like that by an indigenous peoples. I can't remember the specifics in the experimental RC
Anonymous1987
And one about trademark v copywright
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Good morning everyone! Now that the June 2017 LSAT administration is officially over, we can all take a breather.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Wishing you all the best!
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I also studied intensely for the LSAT. Overall, I completed around 25 exams.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I took this as my full and part-time job. I studied around 12-14 hours daily.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Monday through Saturday.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
I would take Sunday's off to relax and take everything in.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
@Anonymous1745: Congratulations! I am very happy that you feel very confident on your performance today. I think it is superb that you have disciplined yourself so well that you had time remaining for each section. How did you overcome the reading comp section? I took the LSAT once, and I thought reading comp was my strongest section, but now it's the section that I have most trouble worth.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
My strategy was the following: If I have any issues with reading comp, I will strive for excellency on both of my LR and LG. I was very happy that I had RC first, because it allowed me to recover on the rest of the sections. Also, the extra RC passage wasn't bad because I knew that either set of passages would be the experimental one. I had to 2 LR sections, and 1 LG games section.
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Do any of the active users have any questions or input on yesterday's exam?
Aspiring NYU Law Student
Do any of the active users have any questions or input regarding yesterday's exam?
Anonymous2104
I had two LG sections so I can confirm the CEO manual question was real
Anonymous2122
Does anyone remember a LR question about Pluto as a dwarf planet?
Anonymous2214
Thank you @59 & @86!
Anonymous2214
@2122, I only had 2 LR, and I don't recall that one @2122!
Anonymous2122
Thanks! @2214
Anonymous2122
I felt this exam was partly difficult for people (such as myself) that was a difficult time grasping scientific theories. I swear I spent more time trying to remember what a quark was then the actual logic in the argument
Anonymous2122
That have*
Anonymous2237
Which one of the 3 LR parts was experimental. 1? 3? or the 5?
Anonymous2237
LG & RC was real in which LR was placed in the 1, 3, & 5th spot.
Anonymous2296
Pretty sure it was the first section of those 1 3 and 5s
Anonymous2296
Correct me if I'm wrong
Anonymous2122
Noble Peace Prize/Science?
Anonymous2296
I don't think Nobel prize science was on my first section I had LR RC LR LG LR
Anonymous2122
Me too!
Anonymous2336
I feel like I remember nobel prize sceince being on the third section???
Anonymous2296
Yea sounds right like the 3rd section because a friend of mine asked me about that question on break
Anonymous2296
Idk why he would ask me about a ? from section 1 lol
Anonymous2356
It was all a blur
Anonymous2303
I see that "concerts" was one of the real LGs. I'm not remembering that one at all. Does anyone remember the basic setup of that game? Or any other info about it?
Anonymous2336
I feel like I remember nobel prize sceince being on the third section???
Anonymous2336
Does anyone who had 3 LR's remember which section pluto as a dwarf planet was on?
Anonymous2336
concerts was one of the basic linear games I believe (second or third game)
Anonymous2296
Sounds like the 3rd section 2236 I could be wrong
Anonymous2370
What was the order of RC? Jazz, psychology, dowsing, passage A passage B comparative?
Anonymous2296
Especially with 3 LRs the blur is real
Anonymous2379
Another LG was grooming and training !
Anonymous2296
Jazz dowsing psychology comparative I think
Mac
Yes, grooming and training for pets was another experimental LG. 3rd game right before breweries
Anonymous2509
There was a question in games that involved circular seating, was this an experimental game section?
Anonymous2515
there was an experimental RC about tipping!
Anonymous2489
Was the chimps aggression/threat gestures thing a real LR q?
Anonymous2536
I also had a LR question regarding Pluto, pretty sure it was experimental
Anonymous2536
@2489 I'm pretty sure the chimp was real. Check out the chart underneath the chat
Anonymous2580
Anyone know if the caterpillar mimic snake/eye spots was experimental?
Anonymous2584
We find out Scores on July 6? Via mail, email, or on lsac's website?
Anonymous2536
@2580 Not sure if it was experimental or not. I also had that question. If it was in the section with the Pluto question then I think it was experimental?
Anonymous2608
circular game -- experimental. Caterpillar ques. experimental
Anonymous2612
what do you think I need to get for a 160 for yesterdays test
Anonymous2612
How many right?
Anonymous2590
Like 73-75
Anonymous2576
Not sure if this helps, but my test order was LR, RC, LR, LG, and LR. I thought RC was hardest and LG easiest. I am pretty sure the 2nd LR section was the only one with 26 questions.
Anonymous2612
What would 65 right be?
Anonymous2576
155-156ish I would assume.
Anonymous2612
Okay Thanks
Anonymous2661
@Anonymous2584: Which RC was real?
Anonymous2661
Nevermind. Scrolled down and now see the chart lol
Anonymous2685
If you copy and paste that link it has all the curves for each year
Anonymous2674
I was so relieved to know that the circular game was experimental. I only work on that game for 35 mns and I am sure that I did not get any question right. I was so ready to walk out the door
Anonymous2674
Hope that they are not bringing that one back in September!!
Anonymous2696
What section was the LR about existing apartment rents rose instead of decreased like they should
Joshua Craven
Remember... it isn't always possible to identify the experimental section by the order of the sections. For example, there could be two different test forms with LR sections 1 3 and 5, with one test form placing the experimental section first and the other placing the experimental section last. The only way to be sure is by identifying real LR questions and remembering which section they were on.
Joshua Craven
also, remember that 26 questions were on 1 LR section and 25 questions were on the other. So if you had two 25-question LR sections, you know one of those 2 is experimental.
Anonymous2749
The LR section with the "rent rising" question was reall. I only had two LR sections and it was on one of them.
Anonymous2696
Does anyone who had LR as an experimental remember a question that was on the experimental section ?? I forgot literally all the questions and how many were in each section
Joshua Craven
@Anonymous2696: if you scroll back up through the chat i think you'll be able to see some experimental question topics discussed. Remember, though, there were probably several different experimental LR sections that were tested.
Anonymous2793
I found it interesting that both the real and the experimental lg sections had two substitution rule questions
Anonymous2793
Anonymous 2584, they will send you and email likely on the 4th or 5th with an unofficial score and it will be available on lsat.org officially ok the 6th (if that's the official reporting date.)
BeRood
I would imagine them releasing scores prior to July 4th holiday
Anonymous2805
Does anyone remember a question about bird calls and pitch on their LR?
Anonymous2824
Yes- loud bird calls and avoiding predators (resolve the paradox q i believe?) I only had two LR sections (my experimental was LG) so that was real
cglberger
Has anybody just not finish a section because of running out of time? I had extra time and my time ran out on me as I was going to do my last set of diagrams for LG
Anonymous2805
Thanks 2824! That one gave me trouble for some reason and that was my opening question
Anonymous2824
confirming comments from earlier posters: I had two LR sections and also remember a question about 1. people watching themselves running on treadmill, 2. older generations voting trends, and 3. nobel prizes.
Anonymous2829
I saw those questions 2824, but I was unlucky to get an experimental LR section
Anonymous2825
Man, I loved the LG. But the RC....man
Anonymous2829
Those were tricky, but not awful!
Anonymous2825
Which ones?
Anonymous2805
The RC wasn't bad except for the density of the psych passage. I felt like the others really weren't too bad if you could get away from the psych one with enough time
Anonymous2829
The RC. I didn't get to finish my last set of diagrams for LG
Anonymous2829
The psych passage was difficult!
Anonymous2825
Really? What a bummer!
Anonymous2829
Definitely a bummer, but it was more of a bummer to get LR as experimental section!
Anonymous2825
I finished the games in 25 minutes and used the remaining 10 minutes to confirm my answers. But the RC killed me. I only read three of the four
Anonymous2829
You're lucky you can go that fast, I can't go that far with LG
Anonymous2825
Yeah, games are my strongest. It goes games, then LR, then RC
Anonymous2829
For me, it's LG/RC > LG/RC > LR
Anonymous2825
Which experimental you get?
Anonymous2825
I got RC, LR, RC, LR and final Games
Anonymous2865
I got LR RC LR LG LR
Anonymous2886
Is it just me?? But I can't remember hardly any Lr questions from yesterday!!!
cglberger92
me too, having THREE lr sections completely drained me
Anonymous2945
Guys what are you thinking the curve will be?
Anonymous2951
so the yesterday was my first LSAT and although I feel I did well, I know I can do ALOT better. Should I do the september or december test?
Anonymous2943
why not anon 2951?
Anonymous2969
I'm thinking of retaking it in September or December, but I want to wait to see my score first before making a final decision. Today was my first time taking the LSAT
Joshua Craven
@Anonymous2951: If you need to retake, I'd definitely go for September. 13 weeks until September test gives you plenty of time to study and improve. Take a look at our 12 week study schedule, which would give you a great foundation for your prep: https://lawschooli.com/shop/lsat-study-schedules/12-week/
Joshua Craven
@Anonymous2969: Good plan. If your score doesn't end up where it needs to be, thats okay... you'll still have plenty of time to study for September and still get your applications in early in the cycle with a September score. Hopefully you did great and you dont have to worry about it, but if you can improve theres no reason not to give it another shot!
Anonymous2994
Thanks Josh, should I wait until I get my score in July before I make a final decision? I scored a 145 on my last practice test before taking the LSAT today and I'm hoping for a 150
Anonymous2997
What will the curve be like Joshua?
Anonymous2997
to get a 160?
Joshua Craven
@Anonymous2994: Realistically, if you were prepping in the 145 range just prior to the test, it isn't all that likely that you hit 150 on test day unless something went really wrong on that 145 test that would lead you to believe it was an anomaly.
Joshua Craven
@Anonymous2994: A 150 is certainly within your reach, so if you're feeling motivated I say start studying now!
Joshua Craven
@Anonymous2994: In my opinion, I'd rather waste 3 weeks prepping and then find out I hit my target score.... rather than waste 3 weeks doing nothing and then realize I need to retake.
Anonymous3280
Joshua Craven what will the curve be for me to get about 160 you think?
Anonymous3280
or anyone for that matter?
Anonymous3281
Is there really a curve that is applied to the LSAT?
Anonymous3280
No there is not
Anonymous3280
But that's the best way I can explain it
Anonymous3280
It's more like a point adjustment based on how others did if i'm not mistaking
Anonymous3280
So I just say curve because people understand that better
Anonymous3280
even though it's not really
Anonymous3343
Thanks. I didn't really find anything related to point adjustment before I took the LSAT yesterday. It was my first try, took me nearly a day to recover from that
Anonymous3280
Yeah same here lol
Anonymous3280
I hope someone can ansher my question
Anonymous3280
Maybe I am better off at 7sage disccusin board
Anonymous3442
If you were scoring 145s you're not going to make it to 160 even with the curve it probably will be only 2 points if that
Anonymous3432
I'm not planning to make it to 160, only 150
Anonymous3408
3442 I'm the one who asked about the curve
Anonymous3408
you mixed me up with 3432
Anonymous3408
and sometimes it's more than 2 points
Anonymous3467
what section did people think was the experimental on the LR sections????
Anonymous3467
I remember one about attention and one sided phone convos
Anonymous3476
I had the LR experimental section and I couldn't tell which one it was
Anonymous3481
@Josh Craven- The recent PT's RC sections have been my hardest section and this LSAT really threw me for a loop on the RC. I usually ace LGs and don't do worse than -5/-6 on each LR section. I've been scoring an average of a 165/166 on PTs, but this RC section on the LSAT is making me nervous. I'm thinking of doing the September LSAT- any suggestions on how to get the RC score up?
Anonymous3498
Anyone have a copy of the 12 week schedule?
Anonymous3640
Pretty sure the average "curve" for a 101 question test is -12
Anonymous3640
No idea whether June was average or not though
Anonymous3636
LG had 23 questions/4 games, RC had 26 or 27 questions
Anonymous4007
How much of an improvement can a person see if they are scoring low on prep tests..given the fact i am guessing in LG. I am taking the test in Sept. So i still have time to improve with Kaplan, i will repeat the course for prepping.
Anonymous4146
LG is the most improvable section so depending on how you're currently approaching that section I'd say you have lots to improve upon
Anonymous4154
God bless, 4146!
Anonymous4154
Your statement on LG is so true!
Anonymous4154
I am a testament of that statement. For example, before properly preparing for the exam, I would score 5/23 on the LG section. After 3 months of intense study, and full devotion, I was scoring 21/23. God is great!
Anonymous4353
Hey guys. LG with travelers to 4 cities, F couldn't be with H and G couldn't go to S? Trying to redo the game. C how I did.
Anonymous4353
"I" exactly twice, F and H NOT together, and G not in the middle (S)??? Tyty. These aren't answers just the question itself.
Anonymous4358
anyone?
Anonymous4358
anyone remember? ^^^^
Anonymous4358
Anyone remember the last logic game with the cities?
Anonymous4440
It was three cities, not four
Anonymous4440
The game featured four travelers to three cities, exactly two travelers per city. "I" exactly twice, G not in the middle city, F and H can't visit the same city
Anonymous4440
Also, every traveler must go to at least one city
Anonymous4515
Missed the score cancellation. Retaking in June. Still unsure what I got for RC. They should just release the answer key now since it will be released anyways
Anonymous4515
Barely had sleep for the last week. Constantly still wasting hours each day trying to figure out my score.
Anonymous4515
*Retaking in Setepmber
Anonymous4515
I was averaging 163 for almost the entire May. Then for my last three Prep Tests I got 167,169,169. However, on the real LSAT I feel that I may have gotten below 160. Is it normal for such huge jumps in score? It all rides on RC, andLR
Anonymous4613
in logic games , the last game, question number 20....was that question a "could be true" question? I think it was the one where once answer choice was H goes to all cities?
Anonymous4358
Hey 4515, dont stress until you get the results back...you never know how you did.. you could have done your best or your worst but more than likely you did near your average. good luck
Anonymous4666
Guys the last logic game (M S and T) I had
Anonymous4666
I rushed n guessed D on the last 3 questions of the last logic game. Was any of the last three "D"? Thanks
Anonymous4842
Does anyone know how bad it is to have a low score on your record like in the low 160s or high 150s and then improve by 10points? I think my June test was one of those one-off diasters
Anonymous4842
Many of the law schools seem to say they consider all your score andaverage them sad
Anonymous4864
It's your highest they count. Not the average...
Anonymous4919
Did u guys have D as an answer in any of the last 3 questions of the logic games section?
Anonymous5134
Does anyone remember a LR question about nurses or doctors or something?
Anonymous5134
Anon 3467, I definitely remember the Q about attention and one sided phone convos (I had 3 LRs)
Anonymous5143
Anon 4919, I picked D on the last 3 real LG questions. I ran out of time and guessed D. Did you work out these questions and get D on all 3?
Anonymous5235
For the last game don't remember the last 3 but they were defitnley not all the same letter. I did the game in reverse from last to first questions and guessed "B" for the second and third (or fourht) question for the game. Hoping for some Bs
Anonymous5235
Anon4864 (or anyone else) does that mean getting a low LSAT score doesn't matter if you do well the next time even for top law schools? they all claim to average on their websites
Anonymous5305
Does anyone remember having a LR section with a really sketchy looking bubble pattern? I had one that was the same letters for about 4/5 answers then another letter for the next 3/4. Was really freaked, but tried to go with gut. I had 3 LR.
Anonymous5548
That's weird. I know for a fact that 99% of schools pick the highest score. So no one remembers the last 3 answers on the last game? Can anyone confirm if any of the last 3 were D? Tysm
Anonymous5930
^^ I definitely had the exact same sketchy bubble pattern! I was so nervous, was that experimental?
Anonymous6386
I'm freaking out
Anonymous6392
me too
Anonymous6395
so do we all get our scores at once? is it guaranteed that we'll get them 7/6?
Anonymous6409
What in the actual fuck with this score release schedule?
Anonymous6473
Has anyone gotten a score yet? I was hoping they'd be released today.
Anonymous6468
Nope. I doubt we will hear anything before Wednesday but I wish they would drop scores today.
Anonymous6572
Yeah, I was hopeful for today, but I figured it would most likely be Wednesday. The waiting is killing me!
Anonymous6617
I've been checking my email like crazy. The suspense is unreal.
Anonymous6622
I have a yellow line on my lsac page right underneath the date of the test that says june 12th
Anonymous6622
I never noticed that before, It just showed up at 8 pm
Anonymous6622
anyone else have that?
Anonymous6753
Here's to hoping for scores tomorrow!!
Anonymous6801
Who else woke up and checked right away as soon they got up only to be met with disappointment they were released yet? Lol
Anonymous6844
^and about 5 times since....
Anonymous6846
Anyone get their scores yet?
Anonymous6853
They usually come out later in the day, like around 4-6.
Anonymous6873
6853-- they usually come out later in the day, as in today or tomorrow?
Anonymous6891
My guess is today. They usually come out at least a day early but later in the day
Anonymous6882
the anticipation is killing me
Anonymous6926
does anyone have a yellow line underneath the date of th test?
Anonymous6926
Does that mean anything
Anonymous6926
on the lsac account page
Anonymous6926
it says june 12th and underneath that is a yellow line
Anonymous6951
Will they email us when the scores become available
Anonymous6926
Do you have a yellow line?
Anonymous6926
Underneath your june 12th on the lsac page under your account
Anonymous6926
Or am I the only one
Anonymous6863
I have one under the administration date, but that's always been there
Anonymous6958
Do they release the curve with the score
Anonymous6926
Oh okay, I must of not noticed before
Anonymous6926
Just wanted to make sure I was not the only one
Anonymous6926
Thanks
Anonymous6882
any scores yet?
Anonymous6926
Its to early
Anonymous6926
4-6.30 when you see the grey
Anonymous6926
and scores can be sent out anytime between then or several hours
Anonymous6926
You might see grey at 6 but not get your score until midnight
Anonymous6926
or you might get it right away
Anonymous6882
what do you mean by grey?
Anonymous6926
Look at the discussion there are many posts
Anonymous6959
if i am in central time, will I get my scores c. 4 pm eastern time/ 3pm my time or will it still be at 4pm my/central time?
Anonymous6926
It goes by eastern time
Anonymous6926
so you will just have to convert that to your time zone
Anonymous6951
Have anyone's icons turned from green to grey yet?
Anonymous6985
Best wishes to everyone. Whether scores come out this afternoon, this evening or tomorrow one thing is for sure. It has been a long three weeks.
Anonymous6957
Still no grey or scores?
Anonymous7017
if east coast people don't have grey in 3 minutes does that mean it'll be tomorrow?
Anonymous6957
^the time isn't "at exactly 3pm" nobody except LSAC knows exactly when they'll be released. We're just saying around 3pm because that's the usual time frame.
Anonymous7053
No grey yet in virginia
Anonymous7053
We have grey!
Anonymous7053
Does grey mean that they're being posted?
Anonymous6959
grey in kansas!
Anonymous7040
What does the grey mean
Anonymous6926
7040 scores will come out
Anonymous6926
aka it's calcaluting
Anonymous7040
Any idea how long it takes?
Anonymous6971
they go out in baches but not sure how the batches are sorted, could be by region or alphabetical
Anonymous7066
Grey in Texas!!!
Anonymous6957
Grey! Finally!!
Anonymous7071
Grey in Florida
Anonymous7053
Has anyone gotten scores since they turned grey yet?
Anonymous7077
any scores yet??
Anonymous7063
Scores have arrived in WV
Anonymous7092
The projected date changed to 7/5/17 on my page
Anonymous7053
my projected date changed too
Anonymous7040
7063 can u post curve
Anonymous7015
ya very curious about the curve
Anonymous7103
Curve was -9
Anonymous7056
Is -9 good? Not sure exactly what that means
Anonymous7040
-9 what?
Anonymous7040
Please clarify 7103
Anonymous7066
Checked other forums, it's a 9 point curve
Anonymous7040
What does a 9 point curve mean
Anonymous6959
who all has gotten scores
Anonymous7109
Have not in Wisconsin
Anonymous6957
You could miss 9 to make a 170
Anonymous7111
what other forums are there
Anonymous7056
I just got my score!
Anonymous7053
7056 where???
Anonymous7092
Got mine in Florida
Anonymous7089
Got mine in mn
Anonymous7062
aare they similar to what you were scoring on practice tests?
Anonymous7111
did u find out through email? or see it first on the site
Anonymous7134
Got mine in Missouri.
Anonymous7066
164 planning to retake
Anonymous7174
has anyone else not gotten theirs? everyone i know has and i'm starting to worry mine will be delayed...
Anonymous7155
@Anonymous7174: in pa. Scores yet
Anonymous7155
@Anonymous7174: no scores yet in pa. Anyom
Anonymous7155
Anyone know how are scores release state by state?
Anonymous7174
any predictions on when the next batch will be released?
Anonymous7240
Still no scores in Wi
Anonymous7046
no scores in VA
Anonymous7252
Did D.C. Get their scores?
Anonymous7256
Don't think they are sent out state by state. I think it's random. But I'm kinda worried that it seems like no one's gotten their results in quite a while. Hope their server didn't crash.
Anonymous7262
no score for me in FL...although other FL got theirs
Anonymous7315
Received mine at 8:30 in WI
Anonymous7328
I got a 142, I was gettng 153-160 on practice
Anonymous7328
What should I do
Anonymous7328
It is possible to score at least in the mid 150s for septembers test?
Anonymous7337
from NY: GPA 3.4 got a 156, Bio Engineering major I thought I would get at least a 160
Anonymous7468
7328, take it again. It unfortunately happens. I was scoring between 157-160 on PT's the first time and I bombed the actual test and scored a 149. On this June exam, I scored a 159. I know it sucks but you can do it
Anonymous7474
does anybody think these 80's prep test is different from the 70's?
Anonymous7474
didn't do too well. was scoring 157-162 on PT's and unfortunately I got a 145 on this June 2017. already been accepted into 3 law schools, but my chance of going to a top 10 is out of the question...
Anonymous7482
Wtf happened I scored 162s start of May then I scored 168-170 by the end of May and before the exam and got a 163 again on the actual exam. Does anyone know why this may be the case? It was mainly LR that hurt me as I used to get -2 per section before the exam but on the actual one I got -5 perLR section
Anonymous7482
If it's possible for me to get back to into the high 160s and low 170s by September how much will law schools punish my lower score by
Anonymous7482
when they claim it's all holistics
Anonymous7474
Law schools only take your highest score. They don't care how many times you have taken the test. I have taken the test twice. first time was a 150, the second time was 145 (this june 2017 Exam)
Anonymous7474
I think what the real issue was for me was the time.... because on the prep tests I took my time that's how I was scoring 157-162, but on the actual exam I was under a lot of time stress and just rushing through
Anonymous7474
7482, have you been accepted into any law schools yet?
Anonymous7474
The secret on the LG section is just diagram the answer choices. that will always give you the correct answer
Anonymous7489
how long until i hear back from law schools? i took June LSAT but all my apps have been submitted for months.
Anonymous7474
it depends. when I applied to the 3 I was accepted into, it was around Sept-Oct 2016
Anonymous7474
they let me know by April 2017
Anonymous7495
thank you 7474
Anonymous7527
If you are an engineer major do they take into account a lower GPA? only have take Lsat once this June and got the 156. will take again in sept
Anonymous7531
@Anonymous7474: I was scoring around the same and then got a 148 on this test, so I understand! Congrats on your law school acceptances though, I wish you the best! smile
Anonymous7658
Hello folks. I've norm bene a lawschooli person for a while but unexpectedly scored a 172 on the June LSAT and have been casting about since I found out fornicate a resource that can help me understand how i should proceed from here. Also kind of a more step by step understanding of how to actually apply for law school at all since I was singlemindedly focused on the LSAT for like 10 fkin months
Anonymous7658
WOw those are some impressive autocorrects, Good job iPhone
Anonymous7658
Casting about FOR A RESOURCE not fornicate a resource. I don't absorb information that way usually. Anyway if anyone has a crib sheet for "getting started on your actual law school actual goddamn apps" guide I'd appreciate it
Anonymous8575
hi guys! i will be taking lsat this sept. I got accepted in 3 schools in Jan but not enough scholarship. Can anyone help with some tips to study while working. I am based in Dubai and there are no great tutors here just money making mongrels.
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UPDATE: 06/12/2017 5:50PM CST — WHICH SECTIONS WERE REAL vs. EXPERIMENTAL?


Real LR Sections – (25 Questions & 26 Questions)

  • Real Questions
    • Nuclear Plant/Meltdown/Elements/Tellurium [Last Question of Section]
    • Chimps/Orangutans
    • Chlorophyll
    • Europe/Fire
    • Mosquitos/Gas
    • Heavy Fabric
    • Swamp
    • Coffee/Dark/Light
    • Movie Reviewers/Critics
    • Marsupials/Mammals/Mom’s Pouches
    • Nutrients/Diet Effectiveness
    • Judge/Editor/Newspaper/Revealing the truth
    • Rent Rising

PLEASE HELP CONFIRM ANY OTHER LR QUESTIONS – send your tips in the chat or comments below


Real RC Section – (27 Questions)

  • Real RC Passages
    • Jazz
    • Psychology/Inferences
    • Judge/Research
    • Dowsing

 

 

  • Experimental RC Passages
    • Earthquake

Real LG Section (23 Questions)

  • Real LG Games
    • Concerts
    • Photos/Rural/Urban
    • Rope Climb/Vault/Wall
    • Cities/Milan/Tokyo/Sydney

Experimental LG Games

  • Waiters/Intermissions
  • Breweries
  • Flowers
  • Supervisors/

UPDATE: 06/12/2017 5:00PM CST – East Coast LSAT takers are finished! Congrats!


UPDATE: 06/12/2017 8:00AM CST – Test Day has arrived! Check back starting at 5pm CST


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Your significant other has gone to bed alone while you stayed up to review your last PrepTests.

Your parents have called you to make sure you’re still alive.

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As you’ve slowly adjusted to living your life in 35-minute increments, the LSAT has so thoroughly engulfed your mind that you can’t even escape the LSAT while you sleep.

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7 Comments

    • Retaking three years after a 166 on June 2014 LSAT, with the aim of 168+…

      LR (exp)-RC-LR(26)-LG-LR(25)

      RC was straightforward (no one killer passage, but 3/4 were “noticeably harder than the first”). LG was very straightforward (only got through three plus the last orientation question, but all four games were “easy to setup”).

      LR is always straightforward on the whole, but not all exams have parallel questions and flaw questions that force even those of us who regularly get 48+ to answer just from POE (maybe ya’ got it, but I wouldn’t be shocked). So I thought it was *slightly* harder than average at the margins.

      PERSONAL ASIDE: The thing is, if you’re somebody who can only get through three logic games, the margin for error on the verbal portion is so small for a 168/169 that it really, really sucks when you feel like there were three questions you may have gotten incorrect and 1 1/2 you didn’t have time to answer. For that’s the difference between a 169 and a 166 repeat. I probably won’t cancel, especially if I learn that I made a “good” guess on the last logic game. (For what it’s worth, I hit 170 flat on PT 66 last night under timed conditions. So suck it, LSAC! Ha!)

      • Had two games and utterly tanked one and made it through the other far easier. I’m praying the hard one was the exp.

  1. RC (Real): jazz, psychology, judge research; forgot the 4th
    LR: I had 3, so not the greatest help. One had a question involving elements that I thought was really hard, but don’t know if it was experimental.
    Games (Real): photos, cities, forgot the other 2 but didn’t notice any “weird” games

    • I think you just made my day! I had 2 games sections, 1 I had to go back & guess like 8/answers, the other was significantly easier and I THINK the one you mentioned was the easier of the two.

      I’ll try & remember my LR to see if I can help you figure that out.

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