If you go to law school, you want it to pay out, right? As our own little contribution to law school rankings season, we wanted to show the schools that are, on average, doing the best job grabbing you a paycheck that can clear up that law school debt within your expected life span. We took the top 25 schools from Forbes’ The Law Schools Whose Grads Earn The Biggest Paychecks In 2014, removed any schools that placed fewer than 70% of their graduates into full-time legal jobs, and compared the average starting pay to the average indebtedness of grads.
The resulting ratio of average starting pay to average debt gives you an idea why the top ranked schools belong at the top of just about any ranking you could devise: not only are these schools landing students top-dollar job opportunities, they also represent the best return on your investment, allowing you to pay off all that loan money sooner.
A word on how the “average starting pay” figures used here were calculated: rather than simply using median private sector salary as an indicator of pay, as most rankings have done in the past, Forbes actually dug into the the data provided by the website payscale, and pulled out self-reported salaries from anyone who graduated from the top 100 law schools within the past five years. This is an excellent way to do it because it gives us salaries for both private and public sector employees, figures any reported salary into the calculation, and also smooths out bumps that might be caused by low paying clerkships or high-paying internships in the first year. Only 7 schools — Columbia, Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Northwestern, UChicago, and UT-Austin, were netting their students over $100K on average. Let’s look at who had the least debt to go along with these big paychecks. There are some big surprises:
Lawschooli.com’s Law Schools With the Best Return On Investment
|Law School||Avg. Starting Pay||Avg. Indebtedness 2013||Starting Pay to Debt Ratio||Percent Grads With Debt||US News Rank 2015|
|1||Columbia Law School||$146,900||$141,566||1.03||81%||4 (Tie)|
|2||Harvard Law School||$125,400||$123,673||1.01||79%||2|
|3||Stanford Law School||$104,000||$108,391||.96||84%||3|
|4||Yale Law School||$101,800||$111,916||.91||80%||1|
|5||UT-Austin School of Law||$110,800||$92,180||.83||71%||15|
|6||University of Michigan Law School||$95,500||$117,675||.81||79%||10 (Tie)|
|7||University of Virginia School of Law||$97,400||$132,601||.73||82%||8|
|8||UCLA School of Law||$84,200||$114,963||.73||84%||16 (Tie)|
|9||Northwestern University Law School||$110,800||$155,777||.71||78%||12|
|10||Duke University School of Law||$87,700||$124,549||.70||60%||10 (Tie)|
|11||University of Chicago Law School||$105,100||$153,753||.68||85%||4 (Tie)|
|12||UC Berkeley School of Law||$82,700||$141,358||.58||82%||9|
|13||Georgetown School of Law||$83,700||$145,631||.57||81%||13 (Tie)|
|14||New York University School of Law||$76,300||$147,395||.51||80%||6|
Columbia comes in at the lead spot by bumping off the top 3 schools as ranked by US News. That is not a massive shock, however, because Columbia graduates historically flock to the private sector, and Columbia is a powerhouse at placing into the high-paying NYC market. Still, beating Harvard in starting pay is quite the feat. According to the National Law Journal, Columbia recently placed 65% of grads into the nation’s largest law firms (the NLJ250). That bested any other top school, most of whom hovered at around 50% placement into NLJ 250 firms.
The other big surprise is seeing UT-Austin towards the top. In a sense, they deserve it, as they have some very highly paid graduates that aren’t in a lot of debt (in-state tuition is often combined with generous scholarships to make UT-Austin a very good deal). However, the avg. pay figures here obviously exclude graduates who aren’t collecting paychecks, as well as lower-earning grads who may be less likely to report. UT-Austin, and also UCLA slightly further down the list, do not put up nearly the quality employment stats that their more elite peers do.
UChicago, for example, ranked 11 here, sees 94.5% of it’s grads employed at graduation. UT-Austin, on the other hand, placed only 75.3% into full-time jobs that required a JD, and that’s 9 months after graduation. UT-Austin isn’t doing badly — 75% placement is still makes it one of the better law schools, but when you compare it to the true elites, it’s getting trounced (that’s part of why we argued a few posts back that a T5 at full price beats UT-Austin with big scholarships).
This highlights the fact that this list is far from perfect, but realize that every school on here is doing very well. The debt averse should look to the higher scorers here as the best places to get a very high-quality degree without ransoming one’s soul. Which school is best for you will of course depend on your individual financial package. If you are agonizing over a decision, make sure to use our new Q&A feature (brand new as of today!), and we’ll tell you which law school we think is your best deal.
Moving back to the list, let’s discuss some surprising omissions. For those who were wondering, “where the heck is Penn?”, I am thinking that the interns over at Forbes simply forgot to include Penn on the list. Penn is an elite by any measure that sees well over 90% of its students hired by graduation, most into high salary, private-sector positions. Their omission is either an oversight or graduates from UPenn have yet to learn about the existence of payscale.com, and thus don’t use it. Either way, Penn surely belongs on this list — there is no way their grads are making less on average than the do-gooders over at NYU, many of whom are taking public interest jobs.
Cornell is also salient by absence, but that is because they have declined to report their average indebtedness in recent years. When they last did, it hovered around $140,000, which means they would probably land towards the bottom of the list. Cornell should certainly start reporting it’s debt figures again.
One other thing to note: Duke has a startlingly low percentage of it’s grads coming out with debt. If this is due to their own generosity with scholarship money, they deserve to be higher up this list. If, however, it’s just because Duke students are inordinately rich, they might well deserve to be lower. All T14 schools have a preponderance of well-heeled students, but Duke may have found a way to grab many more of them.
The Best Of The Rest: Other Schools With High Starting Pay
As sort of an NIT for our “Best Return on Investment Rankings” here are the rankings of the other schools that ranked on Forbes top 25 biggest paychecks list, but didn’t make our cut because their percentage of student employed 9 months following graduation was below 70%. Some of these schools enjoy very good starting pay to debt ratios:
- University of Utah — Pay to Debt Ratio: .96; Starting Pay: $82,000; Avg. Debt: $84,473
- University of Houston — Pay to Debt Ratio: .88; Starting Pay: $79,400; Avg. Debt: $89,530
- University of Colorado — Pay to Debt Ratio: .66; Starting Pay: $77,400; Avg. Debt: $115,866
- USC-Gould — Pay to Debt Ratio: .54; Starting Pay: $80,300; Avg. Debt: $147,685
- Fordham — Pay to Debt Ratio: .53; Starting Pay: $76,300; Avg. Debt: $142,435
All of these schools have quality employment scores over 50%, meaning at least half of their grads have found full-time employment requiring a law degree 9 months after graduation. These schools represent good options if you want to gamble for a high-paycheck against the possibility that finding employment may be more difficult.
Five more schools were on Forbes list, but will remain unranked because they placed fewer than half of grads into full-time legal jobs.
So that wraps up our “Law Schools with the Best Return on Investment.” For more law school analysis, sign up for our e-mail newsletter in the sidebar (it’s just the posts, no marketing stuff) or follow us on twitter @onlawschool.